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With attack speed you're slowing down BW damage.

duh. that's why i turned off haste and do arenas unfeathered, and why i have two 2H/shade equipment slots, one with haste and light speed slotted and one without. what i'm asking is, why am i being accused of overlooking such an elementary thing

I have 524.5 base.
Result is 990 with shoes + gloves and 1010 with gloves + cap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
To get 1.0 with shoes + gloves you need good rolls and a lot of grinding, I don't think you can do it with less than 530 base prof even with peerless drops (and I definitely have good clothe: gloves, shoes).

Intredasting...*fondles 4-layered chin* you only have 24.5 prof over your level and 20 assimilator, yet I have over 35.5 and 14 assimliator, the thing about gaining little prof the higher the level is quite bad for players who were high leveled when the new version came out or is it that you haven't played much since then?

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Now, a bit of rambling, I struggled a bit with scremaz's tables since my excel's 2007 and apparently there's some incompatibility (which took me too much time to realize, thought I was doing something wrong), luckily, there's google docs and apparently I already tried a previous table from scremaz, the one people gave its data to figure out the days of the week for maging; so, I must've had the same incompatibility problem back then and opened it there, but I can't remember for the life of me having done that, spooky, this is what getting old must feel like (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

...anyhow, trying the table it shows if I fully forge my staff, shoes and current cap, I'll reach prof 1 already, if I fully forge these 97% non-charged gloves instead I'll reach it by level 454 (unless I did something wrong)

So in a bit of conjecture (since the tables don't have a percentage input for simulation) I guess getting 80% gloves and shoes should be enough to reach 1.0 in a few levels If I fully forge the pieces and keep gaining a bit more base prof

Intredasting...*fondles 4-layered chin* you only have 24.5 prof over your level and 20 assimilator, yet I have over 35.5 and 14 assimliator, the thing about gaining little prof the higher the level is quite bad for players who were high leveled when the new version came out or is it that you haven't played much since then?

Well, at 487 prof you need around 24.3M prof Exp to gain 0.1 prof.
I need more than 4 times your exp to get the same increase (and I have no dawn of the day bonus).

When 0.86 landed I was already level 486 and for the first month and an half dawn of the day didn't even give any prof.
Anyway, it wouldn't have changed a lot anyway.
The closer you get to level 500 and the more difficult it will be to keep your prof 35.5 levels above you.
You have now around 6M divine prof EXP.
I have 24M.
To be 35.5 level above you would need around 40M prof EXP.

Plan accordingly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Apr 9 2018, 17:16

Well, at 487 prof you need around 24.3M prof Exp to gain 0.1 prof.
I need more than 4 times your exp to get the same increase (and I have no dawn of the day bonus).

When 0.86 landed I was already level 486 and for the first month and an half dawn of the day didn't even give any prof.
Anyway, it wouldn't have changed a lot anyway.
The closer you get to level 500 and the more difficult it will be to keep your prof 35.5 levels above you.
You have now around 6M divine prof EXP.
I have 24M.
To be 35.5 level above you would need around 40M prof EXP.

Plan accordingly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

so the prof starts lagging behind? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) so it'd be possible to reach 1.0 and then lose it? bummer

so the prof starts lagging behind?

Could that be explained by bigger reliance on dawn, which supposedly gives half as much quater as much prof per exp than battles?
[Edit] Just checked: Santa is right, it has been patched next day after the 0.86 update. And yes, assimilator doesn't apply too. Does it mean a 14x difference with full assimilator? No wonder prof for higher levels lag behind.

This post has been edited by quitetanky: Apr 9 2018, 18:27

half

A quarter. Assuming no assimilator.

Could that be explained by bigger reliance on dawn, which supposedly gives half as much prof per exp than battles?

dawn gives little prof, I get 0.013, meanwhile doing all the arenas since the table I wrote above now I have 487.617 (0.084 more)

so it'd be possible to reach 1.0 and then lose it?

yep.

if you note, prof factor is defined as: (prof/level - 1).
let's pick the extreme case in which you are at the very suggested amount for your style (being it 0.68, 0.8, 1.0... whatever) and you're very close to level up. one round, and you level up indeed: this means prof remains the same, while level raises slightly. as a consequence (numerator constant, denominator increases), prof factor drops slightly.


this is what math tells us. i'm too lazy to throw numbers in that, but consider that at lv400+ that drop is very, very minor. in theory it exists, but in practice it's not even worth mentioning.

Slot 79 unlocked, 4614 (40%) tokens left

Luck!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Interesting.....Glad since then I've learned to check item shop.....very,very interesting.....
Fail to put my screenshot here because it's tiff file---->finally did it, just to show off

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Apr 10 2018, 10:57

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Interesting.....Glad since then I've have to check item shop.....very,very interesting.....

Errr.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
What's that?

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10 bill to next level..
Nice... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

Lvl 424

It's frustrating how when it's me I never, ever see anything worthwhile neither in shop nor in bazaar.
Always the same ones who are luckers.

It's frustrating how when it's me I never, ever see anything worthwhile neither in shop nor in bazaar.
Always the same ones who are luckers.

I'm sure you can find some figurines (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

duh. that's why i turned off haste and do arenas unfeathered, and why i have two 2H/shade equipment slots, one with haste and light speed slotted and one without. what i'm asking is, why am i being accused of overlooking such an elementary thing

Although it doesn't have attack speed bonus (unless Agile), shade still grants a large amount of agility, which tends to provide said attack speed bonus. So unless you leave your base agility way behind (which would be stupid in a light persona), you will have some attack speed bonus. Knowing that the longsword itself will contribute to it aswell.

Maybe you won't have that much attack speed, of course, but it's still enough to be suboptimal.

Although it doesn't have attack speed bonus (unless Agile), shade still grants a large amount of agility, which tends to provide said attack speed bonus. So unless you leave your base agility way behind (which would be stupid in a light persona), you will have some attack speed bonus. Knowing that the longsword itself will contribute to it aswell.

Maybe you won't have that much attack speed, of course, but it's still enough to be suboptimal.

yes. that's one of the reasons why i'm starting to experiment with power armour, and right now i'm 50% into training dissociation so i can test a dedicated low-agility persona. even on my balanced persona, my power set with longsword only gives +4% attack speed when unfeathered, not much of a dealbreaker

Level 446 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

66.6% Parry
Still lower than my block (68.2%), but it's catching up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

399

More than a day passed and I still didn't decide what should I do with the rapier I dropped.

It is better than mine in basically all the stats but one, and has a way better prefix, but has terrible parry, and I don't want to lose that much parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Also, even ignoring the parry matter, I can't really bother doing a 5/4 IW myself, and I don't want to risk spending millions for a IW service for that as well.
And after that, catalysts and lost mats from salvaging to buy back, is a new problem that will come right after.


The other option would be keeping mine and selling it but I fear I could regret that in the future.
Or maybe right after selling if it doesn't get bidded at least 5 or 6 millions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


I was considering keeping it as it is until I'll get some divine illumination or drop a peerless one and scrap all I have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


...Yeah. Getting a good drop and being more bothered than happy from it. I'm not even high. I don't drink alchohol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)