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Oct 24 2017, 02:29
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2017, 01:46)  they have comparable effects, so we'll just treat them the same way
They are not because a gold star is a guaranteed double EXP (is not influenced by other bonuses, it's always 1X -> 2X). Thinking cap when you already have AL300 is a whopping 6.25% EXP bonus (from 4X to 4.25X). If you redo the math with 6.25% you get that gold star is actually just as cheap (but with a bazillion added bonuses + all confectionaries). The last levels of AL are also crap (little gain and they cost a lot). You can't treat all percentages as equal when the effect is drastically different.
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Oct 24 2017, 03:27
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Muddybug
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 463
Joined: 28-March 17

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Level 414
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Oct 24 2017, 03:28
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CPUAMD
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,731
Joined: 24-April 15

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reached (300Hath+780KGP)/day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) This post has been edited by Goldage: Oct 24 2017, 03:30
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Oct 24 2017, 03:37
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Ea-Moon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,870
Joined: 4-February 15

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You currently have 1.15 Hath. Hath Perk Crystarium II Activated!
Probably be just about everything I get for Hath Perks for a long time now.
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Oct 24 2017, 05:07
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clarkiest
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Swift Strike keep piling and piling I am not that as happy as I get Butcher 5 anymore.
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Oct 24 2017, 05:14
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Cryosite
Group: Members
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 23 2017, 17:29)  They are not because a gold star is a guaranteed double EXP (is not influenced by other bonuses, it's always 1X -> 2X). Thinking cap when you already have AL300 is a whopping 6.25% EXP bonus (from 4X to 4.25X).
If you redo the math with 6.25% you get that gold star is actually just as cheap (but with a bazillion added bonuses + all confectionaries). The last levels of AL are also crap (little gain and they cost a lot). You can't treat all percentages as equal when the effect is drastically different.
Well, you can't treat them all as the same in terms of how much they increase exp gains. If you focus on how much they reduce "days to 500," you can treat them as the same. In the case of your example, gold star, it cuts the remaining number of days in half. How many days that works out to is still dependent on your base exp gains/playstyle choices/other exp boosts.
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Oct 24 2017, 10:40
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 24 2017, 02:29)  They are not because a gold star is a guaranteed double EXP (is not influenced by other bonuses, it's always 1X -> 2X). Thinking cap when you already have AL300 is a whopping 6.25% EXP bonus (from 4X to 4.25X).
If you redo the math with 6.25% you get that gold star is actually just as cheap (but with a bazillion added bonuses + all confectionaries). The last levels of AL are also crap (little gain and they cost a lot). You can't treat all percentages as equal when the effect is drastically different.
if you note, i clearly said i did the math for a guy starting from scratch, ie: effects don't stack. and also that results may vary if you considered their combos - but at that point, you'd have to analyze all of them. it was 2 AM and i wasn't in the mood to be too wise (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Muddybug @ Oct 24 2017, 03:33)  silicone balloons? oh, well... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Oct 24 2017, 10:43
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CPUAMD
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[attachembed=110526] Made monster PL 1261 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) [attachembed=110527] and upgrade
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Oct 24 2017, 11:12
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2017, 10:40)  if you note, i clearly said i did the math for a guy starting from scratch, ie: effects don't stack. and also that results may vary if you considered their combos - but at that point, you'd have to analyze all of them.
Well, yeah, but the last levels of AL are "mitigated" anyway (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Just wanted to add a quick note explaining why GS is regarded as a very good exp investment
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Oct 24 2017, 11:23
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 24 2017, 11:12)  Well, yeah, but the last levels of AL are "mitigated" anyway (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Just wanted to add a quick note explaining why GS is regarded as a very good exp investment QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2017, 01:46)  [*]in general, Stars have the worse ROIs: nothing wrong, since EXP boost is only part of a bigger package. [*]since they are a free boost, confectionaries obviously modify the situation: while they shift the analysis on a per-use base (since you cannot know in advance what one has and whatnot) this also means that the advantages of a Gold Star grow with the number of cookies it gives you (aka: the less cookies you have, the more appealing a star is)
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Oct 24 2017, 14:10
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Ezekyle
Group: Gold Star Club
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Hath Perk Hoarder I Activated!
It'll pay for itself soon enough.
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Oct 24 2017, 17:02
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Ezekyle @ Oct 24 2017, 14:10)  Hath Perk Hoarder I Activated!
It'll pay for itself soon enough.
How does idle equipment pay for itself?
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Oct 24 2017, 17:13
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 24 2017, 17:02)  How does idle equipment pay for itself?
I'm wondering the same thing. It's not like they're breeding.
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Oct 24 2017, 17:18
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Draw99Gray
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 24 2017, 12:02)  How does idle equipment pay for itself?
By having the chance to be sold? I don't know (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 24 2017, 17:24
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f4tal
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 24 2017, 18:13)  I'm wondering the same thing. It's not like they're breeding.
Sounds like a good new Hath Perk... Level 1. "With a mighty powers of Snowflake, your equipment attempt to mate and make a love in a blind hope to born new equipment. +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every couple of equipment". Level 2. "Well, it looks like your equipment are swingers now. Snowflake in shame, but equipment don't care. +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every equipment". Level 3. "Oh Jesus Christ, your equipment now kidnapping equipment from other players. Call the police! +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every equipment and +0.01% to steal equipment from another player". Level 4. "Your equipment hacked the game server itself and manipulate the drop chances. Also they built a small temple to pray you. Tenboro thinks you are a jerk." This post has been edited by f4tal: Oct 24 2017, 17:28
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Oct 24 2017, 17:25
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Draw99Gray
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 24 2017, 12:24)  Sounds like a good new Hath Perk... Level 1. "With a mighty powers of Snowflake, your equipment attempt to mate and make a love in a blind hope to born new equipment. +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every couple of equipment". Level 2. "Well, now it looks like your equipment are swingers now. Snowflake in shame, but equipment don't care. +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every equipment". Level 3. "Oh Jesus Christ, your equipment now kidnapping equipment from other players. Call the police! +0.05% to get new equipment after the Dawn from every equipment and +0.01% to steal equipment from another player". Level 4. "New equipment hacked the game server itself and manipulate the drop chances. Also your equipment build a small temple to pray you. Tenboro thinks you are a jerk."
tag: equipment:netorare$ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 24 2017, 17:37
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE WATSON vs SHERLOCK brought you some gifts! Received some Low-Grade Metals Received some Mid-Grade Cloth
Anna Semenovich brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Metals
Bridget Regan brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Leather
Scarlet Johansson brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Metals
Iga Wyrwal brought you some gifts! Received a Binding of the Wind-waker Received a Binding of Heimdall
Michelle Marsh brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Wood
Ai Shinozaki brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Wood
Alessia Mancini brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Cloth
Maria Kanellis brought you a gift! Received a Binding of Protection
Diora Baird brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Metals
Jwaydan Moyine brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Cloth
Chiara Francini brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Metals
Maria Mazza brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Leather
Francesca Chillemi brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Metals
Roberta Morise brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Cloth
Giorgia Vecchini brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Leather
Alessia Ventura brought you a gift! Received some Mid-Grade Cloth
Laura Torrisi brought you a gift! Received a Binding of the Nimble
Salma Hayek brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Metals
Anne Hathaway brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Metals
Jolanda DeRienzo brought you a gift! Received some Low-Grade Cloth oh, well... at least a binding of protection
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Oct 24 2017, 17:38
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reality_marble
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I am into supposings ヾ( `ー´)シφ__ that he gets so much equipments that ends ups on maximum limits 。゚( ゚^∀^゚)゚。
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Oct 24 2017, 18:13
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2017, 10:37)  *snip*
hey, why did you copy a list of my everyday gifts?
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