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Jul 26 2017, 10:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jul 26 2017, 03:12)  In that case, would not it be better to modify the wiki based on the information posted by sssss2?
Oh, and vivikinomoto123 also posted data recently.
Those two sets of data basically coincide. But iirc we don't have a clue about neither pab's starting values nor decrease rate
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Jul 26 2017, 10:30
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 26 2017, 06:39)  The 10% damage bonus from Godslayer is far better than Fus Ro Dah, that's why most people don't bother using the Dovahkiin title.
And then the same people cry as they're defeated due to not having enough OC for the OFC, because they failed at the timing in the previous round. If they play melee and aren't don't have gear powerful enough to just YOLO through. Safety first for my part, then 10% is not worth the risk. I'll go to Godslayer again the day I have a good shade set. This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 26 2017, 10:31
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Jul 26 2017, 11:34
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Logii
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 25 2017, 12:11)  I'm already killing monsters with 3-4 hits with my Mag Longsword, clearing the 1st SG arena with it aswell, so if I could be even faster, I wouldn't hesistate investing in it.
The Longsword is the 2H with the highest raw damage output, it benefits the most from being Ethereal (due to having the highest burden+interference), it's more accurate than an estoc. Enough reasons to be wanting a Peerless Ethereal Longsword IMHO. Not to mention that you do can inflict penetrated armor with a longsword, thanks to Rending Blow.
2H may not be as quick as mage at a very high level, but it's not trash either.
I have seen you mention accuracy in several posts recently. While I do agree that higher accuracy is better, you do know that after 100% accuracy you won't miss attacks (I believe, someone correct if this is wrong) and after 200% accuracy monsters can't evade your attacks? This means that accuracy over 200% doesn't give you any benefit, and in the higher levels it's not hard to reach at least with 1H and DW, not sure about 2H (should be possible though, my accuracy is 191.1% with a Longsword of Slaughter, with no 2H abilities slotted). Not saying accuracy is useless, Balance weapons can still be useful as DW off hand weapons to boost off hand strike chance and crit chance. It can also be useful in lower levels when low accuracy can be a problem. However, in the current HV meta higher damage is favored in many cases over other stats, at least in higher levels.
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Jul 26 2017, 11:38
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Ea-Moon
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lv 414
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Jul 26 2017, 11:56
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jul 26 2017, 20:04)  This means that accuracy over 200% doesn't give you any benefit, and in the higher levels it's not hard to reach at least with 1H and DW, not sure about 2H (should be possible though, my accuracy is 191.1% with a Longsword of Slaughter, with no 2H abilities slotted).
My main 1H persona (with all the abilities slotted) is 191.7%... is that bad? 1H prof is 280.91, level is 338.
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Jul 26 2017, 12:04
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jul 26 2017, 11:56)  My main 1H persona (with all the abilities slotted) is 191.7%... is that bad? 1H prof is 280.91, level is 338.
mine is 190.7. but overwhelming strikes adds something like 50 and mobs will be stunned 90% of time, so probably anything past 160 is enough already.
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Jul 26 2017, 12:37
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 20:34)  mine is 190.7. but overwhelming strikes adds something like 50 and mobs will be stunned 90% of time, so probably anything past 160 is enough already.
Oh... so I should invest less exp into dex? Or is dex also used for other important stuff like parry and counter? To date, I've been adding 11 points to dex for every 10 levels I go up. 12 in str, 11.5 in end, 10 in agi and wis, and 4 in int.
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Jul 26 2017, 12:51
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jul 26 2017, 12:37)  Oh... so I should invest less exp into dex? Or is dex also used for other important stuff like parry and counter?
counter chance should have already been maxed since quite a while at your level. apart for ACC, DEX is good for ADB, Crit, Parry... basically everything. it's not a bad thing to upgrade it.
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Jul 26 2017, 13:00
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 21:21)  counter chance should have already been maxed since quite a while at your level. apart for ACC, DEX is good for ADB, Crit, Parry... basically everything. it's not a bad thing to upgrade it.
Counter is 75%. Is that max? 5753 ADB 41% / 63% crit chance / damage 45% parry
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Jul 26 2017, 14:01
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jul 26 2017, 13:00)  Counter is 75%. Is that max?
yep. it has a cap. and overwhelming strikes is at 30%, btw.
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Jul 26 2017, 14:59
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 22:31)  yep. it has a cap. and overwhelming strikes is at 30%, btw.
Yup. Mine is 30. For some reason I thought overwhelming strikes was proc'd by the weapon, similar to coalesced mana for the staff... Just checked. Nope, the weapon proc is penetrated armour: 24% chance and for 7 turns.
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Jul 26 2017, 15:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Jul 26 2017, 14:59)  Yup. Mine is 30. For some reason I thought overwhelming strikes was proc'd by the weapon, similar to coalesced mana for the staff...
Just checked. Nope, the weapon proc is penetrated armour: 24% chance and for 7 turns.
yep. you can proc OS even without a weapon. it comes from the style.
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Jul 26 2017, 16:52
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Ebisan
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Thanks. I'll try the title if only to try it in combat.
I think those stats are fine. With 1H, between overwhelming strikes and permaspirit stance, you end up dealing a lot of damage, so I wouldn't worry too much even if they were a lot lower. It's weird how it's a style where keeping the monsters alive benefits you.
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Jul 26 2017, 23:22
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bensalenkkari
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level 375 and new rank of better regen
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Jul 27 2017, 01:37
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 26 2017, 05:17)  Those two sets of data basically coincide. But iirc we don't have a clue about neither pab's starting values nor decrease rate
It might be interesting to modify only those that presented more stable values. QUOTE Average estimated chances (for capped PAB): 2 Hath: 20% Last Elixir: 20% Energy Drink: 20% Crystals: 40% orQUOTE Average estimated chances (for not capped PAB): 2 Hath: 10-20% Attribute Point: 0-40% Last Elixir: 10-20% Energy Drink: 10-20% Crystals: 20-40% As for the attribute points, maybe you may need to make a slightly higher note. See these examples: Ex.1Ex.2In my case, since I already had 102 points when I started to make the records, my first (100) and third (300) are identical to the fourth (400) and sixth (600) of the friggo (considering that he had 117 points until the third). But I know that with this data alone it is not possible to accurately state the variation in the PAB drop rate. Even because I believe that this value depends on the level of the player and the amount of points that he already has.
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Jul 27 2017, 10:15
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Jul 27 2017, 11:55)  [attachembed=106134] (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Congrats! QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jul 27 2017, 12:25)  Congratz I wonder how much should I wait for hath to drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I want some perks too I would sell you mine (I'm credit-poor atm. I only have 3,895,604) but I have to keep on saving my hath for the android port bounty (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) currently have [9,231 / 12,000] hath saved up.
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