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post Sep 27 2013, 03:17
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 26 2013, 10:11) *

Also nerfs.



Oh noes D:

QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 26 2013, 11:32) *

Time to hide your equipments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Shhh, don't tell Tenby that I hid my gear in the watercloset in the secret compartment at the bottom of the cabinet.
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post Sep 27 2013, 04:35
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QUOTE(Dark_Force_0 @ Sep 27 2013, 01:21) *
So.......... scan no longer shows negative base damage mitigation (stat) numbers!!?
OK, tested. Took a crappy axe to normalfest and found a daimon and a sprite with the same level:
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8 1 You hit Pannya for 2042 slashing damage.
7 1 You crit Pannya for 3656 slashing damage.
6 1 You crit La Bellezza Della Rosa for 2717 slashing damage.
5 2 You hit La Bellezza Della Rosa for 1834 slashing damage.
4 1 You hit Pannya for 1979 slashing damage.
3 1 You hit La Bellezza Della Rosa for 2423 slashing damage.
2 2 Scanning Pannya...
      HP: 7164/7164     MP: 94/790     SP: 229/797
    Monster Class:      Beast, Power Level 756
    Monster Trainer:    damemo
    Melee Attack:       Slashing
    Fire: +14% Cold: +51% Elec: +32%
    Wind: +51% Holy: +32% Dark: +32%
    Crushing: +25% Slashing: +0% Piercing: +0%
2 1 You use Scan.
1 2 Scanning La Bellezza Della Rosa...
      HP: 7439/7439     MP: 307/883     SP: 224/844
    Monster Class:      Daimon, Power Level 993
    Monster Trainer:    Setebos
    Melee Attack:       Piercing
    Fire: +60% Cold: +60% Elec: +60%
    Wind: +60% Holy: +16% Dark: +50%
    Crushing: +0% Slashing: +0% Piercing: +0%                           (in theory it should be -25%, -25%, -25%)
1 1 You use Scan.


In theory a daimon shall have Slashing mitigation -25% and a sprite 0% but Pannya get more damage (~7% more damage):

attacks on Pannya: (/ (+ 1979 (* 0.75 3656) 2042) 3) = 2254
attacks on La Bellezza Della Rosa: (/ (+ 2423 1834 (* 0.75 2717)) 3) = 2098
(- 1 (/ 2098 2254)) =~ 7%

7% is within the 10% of the normal variation of the damage roll. I do not know the actual variation of the damage roll, 10% is just an upper limit (as otherwise breached defense would be meaningless).

Conclusion (TL;DR):
I suspect that it is not scan that do not show the negative mitigation, instead any negative mitigation is treated as zero mitigation for all purposes.

PS: @damemo, is Pannya an analogy to the Polocrois series?
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post Sep 27 2013, 06:13
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 26 2013, 17:11) *

Always nerfs.


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post Sep 27 2013, 06:21
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Sep 27 2013, 02:35) *

Conclusion (TL;DR):
I suspect that it is not scan that do not show the negative mitigation, instead any negative mitigation is treated as zero mitigation for all purposes.

PS: @damemo, is Pannya an analogy to the Polocrois series?


So in other words, things that "should" be weak now round up to 0?
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post Sep 27 2013, 06:38
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Apparently yes. Yet I did only two tests (the one above and another one later) 'til now.

If it's really true it's a buff to celestials, daimons, elementals and (to a lesser extent) low level undead.

On the other hand, every good melee uses an ethereal weapon so there's no real difference.
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post Sep 27 2013, 07:11
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Sep 26 2013, 21:38) *

Apparently yes. Yet I did only two tests (the one above and another one later) 'til now.

If it's really true it's a buff to celestials, daimons, elementals and (to a lesser extent) low level undead.

On the other hand, every good melee uses an ethereal weapon so there's no real difference.


Yeah, not like we use anything but ethereal anyways, lol. But if that is true, that is one HUGE buff.

For the monsters.

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post Sep 27 2013, 08:33
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Sep 21 2013, 16:56) *

She?! Girls play this game??!?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Yes. Some of us broadcast it for everyone to know, like Wolfgirl, and some of us just don't care for the massive amount of attention. Yes, I'll admit it, but this post will only be seen by the active forum folks and it's not like it's going to get me freebies. Oh, and before you ask, yes, girls watch porn, too.
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post Sep 27 2013, 09:04
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 27 2013, 15:33) *

Yes. Some of us broadcast it for everyone to know, like Wolfgirl, and some of us just don't care for the massive amount of attention. Yes, I'll admit it, but this post will only be seen by the active forum folks and it's not like it's going to get me freebies. Oh, and before you ask, yes, girls watch porn, too.


I did not know girls watch porn. Mind blown.
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post Sep 27 2013, 09:50
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Fixed a couple of issues with negative mitigations. (One case where it could happen but shouldn't, and one where it couldn't happen but should.)
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:01
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Sep 26 2013, 16:18) *

WHY? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THAT? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Why not?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 26 2013, 16:30) *

0.78

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post Sep 27 2013, 10:09
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Spending 3x the time needed just to save a couple of credits from pots is good?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:16
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oh, no, that not reason. my gear not enough forged to see big difference between dark/holy. just old habit.
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:40
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@treesloth16: Although porn is more male-centered, approx. more than one third of the watchers are female.

But that doesn't apply to forums, though.
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post Sep 27 2013, 11:51
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QUOTE(Lement @ Sep 27 2013, 17:40) *

@treesloth16: Although porn is more male-centered, approx. more than one third of the watchers are female.


Thanks for that wikipedia info.
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post Sep 27 2013, 12:03
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Sep 27 2013, 06:38) *

On the other hand, every good melee uses an ethereal weapon so there's no real difference.


RIP infusions.
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post Sep 27 2013, 12:33
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 27 2013, 09:50) *

Fixed a couple of issues with negative mitigations. (One case where it could happen but shouldn't, and one where it couldn't happen but should.)


I'm taking less damage on IWBTH grindfest, did you fix other weird bugs?
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post Sep 27 2013, 12:38
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Sep 27 2013, 12:33) *
I'm taking less damage on IWBTH grindfest, did you fix other weird bugs?


Not as far as I know.

Oh, I did fix a minor thing where having +speed became a blocker for the Swift Strike potency. Nothing damage-related, though.
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post Sep 27 2013, 12:43
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 27 2013, 18:38) *

Oh, I did fix a minor thing where having +speed became a blocker for the Swift Strike potency. Nothing damage-related, though.


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post Sep 27 2013, 12:48
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So that's why I couldn't seem to get SS on my waki
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post Sep 27 2013, 14:00
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I don't know, got two swift strike yesterday or two days ago on one of my waki.
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