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post Sep 18 2013, 05:27
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Finally managed to be To Kill A God on PFUDOR using my 1H set. But it took up a lot time. I think I'll have to turn it down to IWBTH for arenas.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:21
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Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...

QUOTE(MikukoAya @ Sep 18 2013, 09:11) *

And lol, yeah, I think most of us specifically look for ethereal.


This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:34
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 18 2013, 00:21) *

Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...
This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name

I'll guess...2!
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:42
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One day ethereal will lose parry chance and gain attack speed and then people will quit.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:46
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 18 2013, 01:21) *

Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...
This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name

5 - IW is so fucking annoying to get Hollowforged on elemental prefixed weapons... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



I think is 2... while 1 is also great, especially for Light players... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:50
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 18 2013, 00:42) *

One day ethereal will lose parry chance and gain attack speed and then people will quit.


...Will that be retroactive to currently existing ethereals?
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:53
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Sep 18 2013, 06:50) *

...Will that be retroactive to currently existing ethereals?


Considering how rare retroactive changes are, probably not.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:59
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QUOTE(Cashino @ Sep 18 2013, 00:53) *

Considering how rare retroactive changes are, probably not.


Good then. I don't want to lose the parry in my Rapier after all.
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post Sep 18 2013, 07:03
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 18 2013, 11:42) *

One day ethereal will lose parry chance and gain attack speed and then people will quit.


You remind me of piyin

QUOTE(e-Stark @ Sep 18 2013, 11:46) *

5 - IW is so fucking annoying to get Hollowforged on elemental prefixed weapons... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Seriously though... I'm kinda confuse... What do you mean by this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Anyway, I kinda want to make a proper vote thread about this since I have an interest about this sort of thing... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 07:43
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Just finished DwD on PFUDOR with my Club/Rapier+Shade set. Took fucking forever, but it wasn't very difficult.
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post Sep 18 2013, 08:03
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 18 2013, 02:03) *

QUOTE(e-Stark @ Sep 18 2013, 01:46) *
5 - IW is so fucking annoying to get Hollowforged on elemental prefixed weapons... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Seriously though... I'm kinda confuse... What do you mean by this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Actually, for mostly low/mid level players, void damage is the most important thing in ethereal weapons... but if you compare Lv.10 IW weapons, the only difference is the burden/interference (because Hollowforge converts the damage from any weapon to void too)... so, i guess, if IW a weapon into Lv.10 were not so annoying, ethereal would not be so valuable as well...


QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 18 2013, 01:42) *

One day ethereal will lose parry chance and gain attack speed and then people will quit.

I don't know... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Actually this could be a buff for 2H weapons, Axe and Clubs (w/out nimble suffix)... 'cause they currently don't have parry anyway... only rapiers, daggers, shortswords and wakizashis will really suffers if it happens... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 15:28
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 17 2013, 23:21) *

Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...
This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name

I'd vote for all the above (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But 2 & 3 are the best (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 18:21
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 17 2013, 21:21) *

Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...
This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name


1 for me, lol. Though 2 is nice.
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post Sep 18 2013, 18:57
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#1 is the only one that matters. It's the only advantage that ethereal actually has (unless you are too lazy to IW).
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post Sep 18 2013, 19:03
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 18 2013, 12:21) *

Dunno whether if it would be appropriate to ask it here— oh well...
This is indeed true. But has any of you ever ask yourself that, while there're many reason, well, 3 to be precise, that made eth obviously better, which one is the most important? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 - No Burden / Intf
2 - Void dmg type
3 - Void Strike
? - The fancy name

1, obviously.
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post Sep 18 2013, 19:12
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Why is it we can fight with 2 fists but not with 2 shields equipped?
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post Sep 18 2013, 19:20
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I just did my first schoolgirl trophy binge in a long while. I got to say, rolling scythe into longsword made the shrine a lot more diverse when it came to giving out a 2H weapons. Before .77, I would always end up with a giant pile of longswords with maybe two or three other weapons for the other types, now the trophy payload has evened out.

Crude Estoc of Slaughter
Average Estoc of Slaughter
Average Estoc of Balance
Average Estoc of Balance
Average Estoc of Balance
Average Estoc of the Banshee
Average Estoc of Balance
Average Estoc of the Banshee
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post Sep 18 2013, 19:21
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 18 2013, 13:12) *

Why is it we can fight with 2 fists but not with 2 shields equipped?


[mikemonaco.files.wordpress.com] Lantern shields for .78?
[medieval.stormthecastle.com] http://medieval.stormthecastle.com/essays/...val-weapons.htm

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post Sep 18 2013, 22:35
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HVerse Ethereal reminds me exactly of Diablo 2 Ethereal

Except in Hell Act 5, I could manage pretty well with just off-the-corpse of Prime Evils drops...

in HVerse --- not a chance.
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post Sep 18 2013, 22:59
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Sep 18 2013, 12:57) *

#1 is the only one that matters. It's the only advantage that ethereal actually has (unless you are too lazy to IW).


That is not true at all. One of Ethereal's other major qualities is that points aren't wasted on a low Burden or Interference. For the same potency difficulty (say an item with a 342 for a mid range Mag) a weapon with really high burden or ethereal tends to have extra stat points in other areas, like Damage or PABs, than one with a minimal burden.
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