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Wow, 40 doujins? That must have cost a lot.

Nice effort!

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/R2uyYEE.jpg

My order just came in. Total of 32 doujinshi, not counting the one in the collage that is already scanned. As before, let me know if anyone is interested in translating any of these so I can prioritize scanning them, or if you're interested in volunteering to edit any of these.

It's all touhou, except for 2 Ar Tonelico books, but those are reserved anyway. Most of it is porn, but there are a few worksafe books.

Shop links:
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i have some knowledge in clean so i wanted to do Process scans for (C84) [Team Twin Devils] 汁気100%の阿闍梨 (Touhou / 東方Project)
but when i tried downloading it wouldnt work
hey Also am new to this forum

It'd probably be better to PM me about any of my bounties. If you don't know how to PM, click on my name to view my profile, and click "Send a Personal Message" on the right side, under "Communicate". Just clicking this link should work too:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=M...&MID=344722

Regarding the download link, I suggest using Chrome with mega. Other browsers don't work very well for the most part. That's probably the issue.

So it happens I got my hands on several dojins not in our galleries. However, not only have I no scanning experience, I also don't currently have a scanner.

What I have is a pretty good camera, which I never bothered how to use properly - I just take all my photos on automatic setting. ... I can hear the collective *sigh*.

While I could send the dojins to a professional scanner, they are all backlogged to hell (I already sent another batch directly to Kalevala few months ago and I *hope* he will be done with it THIS YEAR). So I figure that I can send them to him next year if needed. Until then, I intend to play a little with taking photos of dojins rather than scanning them. I'd appreciate any advice on how to take good photos of dojins. My current idea is limited to:
* use daylight
* try to center camera above the dojin
* take several photos of each page, chose the least blurry one

In either case, I realize that such photos are going to have issues such as non-rectangular dimension of pages, elements outside pages, and occasionally an object that I am using to make the page straight. Therefore I am also going to be posting an editing bounty for an editor to clean those pages so they look more like a proper scan before I upload them to the galleries.

For starters, here's a short full color Madoka dojin I just photoscanned:
[www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?ct6rr8smn2428v3

Let me know if you have any suggestions on how I could try to take those pictures better.

Editing bounty for cleaning up the pages (rectangularizing them, editing out my fingers, and telling me whether some pages should be re-photographed if they are beyond rescue) is here: https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=10720

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Jul 24 2014, 06:15

The only way to make photos work is to have the book under a piece of glass. Otherwise they're going to be largely uneditable. And even then it's tough to get the lighting right.

I'd just buy a cheap flatbed scanner. $50 for scanner, and however much you want to spend on beer while you do the scanning. It's not hard, it's just time consuming. Get yourself set up and you can do it while watching TV.

Ultimately, it's going to be faster and cheaper than trying to make photos of similar quality.

This post has been edited by StatisticallyNP: Jul 25 2014, 01:59

^Pretty much all of this. I just have a simple printer/scanner and get decent results, and It only took a few tries to get the hang of it.

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Jul 25 2014, 02:22

Tried doing some editing on it. It's hard actually, since it has color. I would suggest the same thing above, get a cheap scanner and well... scan it. Maybe start a fundraiser for a new scanner? No seriously, if you are short on cash i can spare a few bucks for the cause.

So bad, huh? I hoped it wouldn't be that much of a problem.

Well, if you all are saying that a cheap scanner will be better than any camera, I'll look into that. But I don't feel like destroying the books by debinding, and at least one book I picked up is 60 pages - not sure how to deal with that...

Any thoughts on wand scanners? Specialized book scanners seem rather expensive, and the DIY solutions while cool are beyond my skills (I suck at DIY).

In the meantime I photographed another dojin: [www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?ldk3kyc6v5fhi99

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Jul 25 2014, 07:10

Never used a wand scanner, but I do have a lazy tip. Using a blow dryer (never tried a microwave) run it on the edge until it's all soft and easy to bend back somewhere in the middle really hard like that color one. After that just lay the page on the scanner and put something heavy* on it and let scan.

*Heavy, like a 10lb+ single object like a box full of stuff or a case of soda, whatever works just as long as it's the about the width of the scanner top. Best scenario is that the scan will be even and neat with a minor, easy to deal with gutter.

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Jul 25 2014, 07:28

So bad, huh? I hoped it wouldn't be that much of a problem.

Well, if you all are saying that a cheap scanner will be better than any camera, I'll look into that. But I don't feel like destroying the books by debinding, and at least one book I picked up is 60 pages - not sure how to deal with that...

Any thoughts on wand scanners? Specialized book scanners seem rather expensive, and the DIY solutions while cool are beyond my skills (I suck at DIY).

In the meantime I photographed another dojin: [www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?ldk3kyc6v5fhi99

You don't need to debind to get a decent scan. You can get a perfectly good scan just by folding the book flat, because no author worth his salt puts critical information near a page boundary. The only exception is double page spreads, but when you think about how you're reading it in real life you're likely not able to actually see the middle properly anyway.

So if you're folding, the choice is then how aggressively do you fold? Again, all you're giving up is a few millimeters near the spine, and so it's up to you to judge how valuable you think that space is compared to the damage you're doing to your book.

Anything with a staple in the spine can be scanned perfectly with no damage at all.
Glue bound books can be done near perfectly with very limited damage if they're under 20 pages or so.

With your 60 pager I'm assuming it's square glue bound. The middle section is relatively easy, where you'll find difficulty is nearer the covers at each end. Because you're folding with a fat half and a thin half, it doesn't bend nicely.

With any big book it's really only the 20-30 pages near the covers that give you trouble, everything in the middle is fine because the spine is more flexible there. I've done 300 page tanks, and most of it is cake, and no appreciable damage at all.


Anyway, if you're going to give it a go, put aside a couple of hours and go at it carefully. You can always be more aggressive later, so try your most minimally damaging scan and see whether you think it looks good enough.

P.S. Remember the trick that if you're getting bleed through, put a piece of black paper behind the page. Takes it right out of the equation.

Still, debinding it will gave you best quality possible.
Some crazy dude created a guide to rebinding it.
Never tried it myself, so I can't vouch for that though.

Debind
[hem.bredband.net] http://hem.bredband.net/pnyxtr/scanning/iron_debind.html

Rebind
[www.insidescanlation.com] http://www.insidescanlation.com/etc/Fimbul.../rebinding.html

Try in on some old magazines first might be a good idea.

I am quite sure I am not going to be debinding them soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to look for a scanner, but maybe I won't have time to deal with that for weeks or months (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) In the meantime, if anyone can try to salvage the photos, it would be appreciated. Big Brother Google tells me it should be possible... and as usual I don't mind paying creds/hath for editing help.

I am quite sure I am not going to be debinding them soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to look for a scanner, but maybe I won't have time to deal with that for weeks or months (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) In the meantime, if anyone can try to salvage the photos, it would be appreciated. Big Brother Google tells me it should be possible... and as usual I don't mind paying creds/hath for editing help.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of those pages will never really look great.

Assuming you want them to roughly the quality of a generic flatbed scan:

There's a few pages that don't, but most either have parallax or just the natural bend of the page as you hold it open. That's normal and there's not really much you can do (short of putting it under glass), but it means that the editor is going to have to take that out. It'll warp the image, and probably look somewhere between slightly off and outright weird.

The really bent pages have a significant portion of the page at a serious angle to the camera. The editor is going to have to kind of guess how best to stretch that back into shape. Because it's not consistent each page has to be done by trial and error. Time consuming.

You did a good trick with the wooden spoon or whatever it is, and it and your finger can probably be removed without too much trouble, but it's another thing to do and in a few cases requires redraws to touch it up.

There's a few places where you've partially shadowed the page by getting in between your light source. I'm not sure that can be taken out easily.


I'd almost say you're probably better off leaving them as obvious photos than trying to make them look like scans. If the reader can see the edge of the pages and such, the brain can compensate for the bends and inconsistencies in light. If you make it look like a scan, then the reader's brain assumes that the book was dead flat, and any inconsistencies become that much more jarring. It would be easier to read as photos than as mock scans.

It's up to you the sort of quality that you're happy with putting out, but I'd suggest that even the very best that you could achieve with that sort of source material isn't going to be that flash, and that's with a lot of time spent trying to touch them up.

I can appreciate what you're trying to do, but I know first hand how cruel people on here can be to even slightly sub-par scans.


If you want reasonable quality just buy something cheap and shit like this: [www.amazon.com] http://www.amazon.com/Canon-CanoScan-4507B...flatbed+scanner

Have it sent out to you, and you'll find that it's probably faster and easier to scan with that than it is to take photos, not to mention the time you're saving someone else to tidy it up. Don't overthink the scanner thing, just get the first cheap one you find with a name you recognise. They're all the same, and these days they're mostly bulletproof unless you get really unlucky.

I am quite sure I am not going to be debinding them soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to look for a scanner, but maybe I won't have time to deal with that for weeks or months (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) In the meantime, if anyone can try to salvage the photos, it would be appreciated. Big Brother Google tells me it should be possible... and as usual I don't mind paying creds/hath for editing help.

Better post this before I start redrawing the whole background...



I think they look almost "decent"(even though I overwarped page 5 a bit too much but meh too late now)

PS: Oh yeah, I can change the floral pattern...just used the first one I found in internet.

PS2: yeah... better get a scanner whenever you can.

This post has been edited by dharumas: Jul 27 2014, 22:39

Wow those look great. Mind telling me what exactly you did? For studying purposes, literally.

Ok, I got my hands on a borrowed scanner. Here's book one, redone: [www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?kvycuv28kh3cbid

I am currently using a game box to hold the dojin in place, seems to reduce the chance of it being skewed left or right.

The only problem I am seeing with those scans (outside the need for a little cut and paste editing, with maybe just a tad of realigning) is the fact that the scanner is not picking up all shades. What I mean by this is that some shading is not being scanned - the scanner seems not to "see" them. You can actually see the difference if you compare my current scans to dharumas'. The photos might have many other issues, but they were able to capture those shades. I tried playing with contrast and brightness settings but they don't do much. I have no idea what other option to try? I am currently using Win7 default scan software; I have not bothered to install any specialized drivers.*

*the scanner I use is Samsung SCX-1460 and I am only seeing Korean drivers?

Let me know if this scan is acceptable for editing. Please note that I am not aiming to become a pro scanner, for now I am going to be happy to be able to provide our community with decent quality scans.

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Jul 27 2014, 08:43

Pick up a copy of Vuescan. It is much better than the Windows tool.

As far as the scan goes, it seems like there is a lot of noise in the sensor. I could only find a Korean user guide for that model. It appears to be an all-in-one so I dontt expect to get amazing scans out of it. Try bumping the DPI as high as it will go and downscale the images to see if it improves any.

600 dpi (whih takes about 4x long with my scanner) doesn't fix the missing shades issue. I don't know whether any other features are significantly improved to make it worthwile - here are the first two pages in 600d dpi and in Vuescan default mode: [www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?ebxp025h8xn1tys

Vuescan adds an annoying watermark; and the test images I run from it (default settings) don't seem to fix this problem, either. I can test some specific settings if anyone has any ideas? I don't mind buying it if it can produce significantly better results, but at least in the default mode it doesn't seem to deliver much.

Meanwhile scanning the ~30 B&W dojin is running into the spine issue. Here are the first 6 pages: [www.mediafire.com] https://www.mediafire.com/?ppbwv8mfzfgp8if
On the bright side, while I see some shading loss, this being b&w it's not as noticeable.

Any thoughts on how to improve the scans (outside debinding/getting a better scanner)? Because I am itching to scan and share all the 9 or so books I acquired (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think it will help with that specific issue, but does the software have a 'decreen' option? That should reduce the pixelation. I've found it to be very helpful with color pages.