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Jul 1 2013, 23:04
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qazmlpok
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Hello,
I am about to receive about about 50 Touhou doujinshi in order to scan them.
Unfortunately, I have never done this before, and don't own any equipment. Not even a hairdryer or microwave (or anything else for debinding), let alone an actual scanner.
And so, I need help. I need recommendations on what equipment I'll need to get these books done. I do want these scans to be good quality, so I'll need a reasonably good scanner, I'm sure. Beyond that I have no idea what I'll need to debind these.
I'd also appreciate any links to good guides for learning how to scan and edit books. I'll have a few books to use for practice to try and get a hang of this without risking any damage to the unscanned books. I'll also post at least the first few I finish in here for feedback.
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Jul 1 2013, 23:05
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qazmlpok
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Jul 2 2013, 00:35
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Super Shanko
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Well, i'm only going to offer amateur advice of what I did. I used a $30 Epson scanner/printer combo I happened to have already but it's given me good results so i'm sure whatever you have will be sufficient. You can try to just bend the book backwards if you don't have a hair dryer, but ultimately I had the best results just taking it apart (with a blow dryer). As fas as scanning I've read that most scanners prefer 300dpi, but I did 600dpi only because I wanted the max size to handle any editing. The funny thing with that is I was able to mimic that digital scan look DLsite has (huge scan/small file). But that's just my preference. As far as fixing it up, I actually did very little cropping and simply fixed up the little messed up spots manually with Photoshop. This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Jul 2 2013, 02:50
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Jul 2 2013, 06:35
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menotthebest
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debinding is a crime against books
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Jul 2 2013, 06:55
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Skeleton Snax
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QUOTE(menotthebest @ Jul 1 2013, 21:35)  debinding is a crime against books
That's why it's good to have two XD Really though, I had that same thought. I managed to do Precure without debinding it, but it's very tough to do it while expecting quality/no gutters. It wasn't until I snapped and in that psychotic episode debound Soix. I got over it pretty quick when I realized the book didn't burst into flames and was lost forever. Then I got some decent scans out of the whole ordeal.
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Jul 2 2013, 07:13
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Kalevala
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QUOTE(menotthebest @ Jul 2 2013, 05:35)  debinding is a crime against books
Seconding this.
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Jul 2 2013, 08:54
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Negative Man
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QUOTE(menotthebest @ Jul 1 2013, 23:35)  debinding is a crime against books
You can rebind them, you know.
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Jul 2 2013, 09:14
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Negative Man @ Jul 1 2013, 23:54)  You can rebind them, you know.
Please, let me know how.
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Jul 2 2013, 09:50
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Negative Man
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Find a printing place that offers binding. Of course, you probably don't want your porn in the open like that, so you can try binding it yourself. I've only done it a couple of times and I'm not that happy with the results, but at least it hasn't unbinded yet, there should be some guides on youtube.
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Jul 2 2013, 10:12
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Negative Man @ Jul 2 2013, 00:50)  Find a printing place that offers binding. Of course, you probably don't want your porn in the open like that, so you can try binding it yourself. I've only done it a couple of times and I'm not that happy with the results, but at least it hasn't unbinded yet, there should be some guides on youtube.
Hmm. I'll have to check it out.
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Jul 3 2013, 21:34
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ackeejag
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I did some searching around since I plan to get into scanning at some point too. The consensus seems to be -unbind the books with a microwave to loosen the glue then take the pages out -scan them at 300 dpi for b/w or 600dpi for color -save as .tif before any cleaning gets done
And I'm not sure if they make this but maybe try finding a scanner that auto feeds in the pages so you're not stuck feeding in hundreds of pages manually.
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Jul 3 2013, 23:00
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Super Shanko
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When I was fumbling around with scanning, I didn't like it at 300 dpi because of the small size. When I did it at 600, I got this. I was saving for a rainy day or whenever the hell I get it translated, but it's basically a mock-digital scan.  With some fancy leveling, I got the b/w pages under 2mb, which is kinda cool. My favorite thing about doing it like this is the absolute amount of control over redrawing it like when I did this instead of having those mismatched seams and clone stutter marks. But even so, can always lower the image size I guess. This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Jul 4 2013, 01:54
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Jul 4 2013, 00:24
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Red of EHCOVE
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just a reminder that in our FAQ (https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=68725) we have three links
PM me with any others you'd like to add there
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Jul 4 2013, 04:02
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nokosan
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I use an iron to debind doujins (glue bind), obviously staple bind is a lot easier and it's not rocket science (easier to rebind, too!).
If you want a decent scanner: "Canon CanoScan LiDE110 2400 x 4800dpi 48bit USB Interface Flatbed Scanner"
Pretty cheap I guess, works great, only downside is it can only scan one page at a time, and so cover scans run into issues unless you cut them or bend the hell out of them.
Leveling is a separate matter entirely, but there's tutorials on the net. I think LWB published a guide.
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Jul 8 2013, 05:02
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Super Shanko
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If you're still fearful about taking apart the books, you can use [ www.yeskey.cn] slide on binder bars to hold it together. I tried them today and they work good at keeping the book together. I even did the shake test. The only downside I had was that I couldn't get the pages perfectly back in the book, but otherwise it works like a charm.
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Jul 13 2013, 01:54
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qazmlpok
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Okay. I have the books, I have the scanner, and hopefully everything else that I'll need. I'm trying out one of the full-color doujinshi that's already scanned. Starting with the cover before I take it apart. Here's what I have for a final version: [ filesmelt.com] http://filesmelt.com/dl/IMG_0001_resized.png[ filesmelt.com] http://filesmelt.com/dl/IMG_0002_resized.pngThis was scanned at 400 DPI (300 and 600 both produced additional patterns), then cropped, and resized to 50% (cubic). The back cover was more crooked at the bottom than the front, and I'm not entirely sure why. There's a rectangle around the girls, and that appears to be almost perfectly straight, but the bottom is noticeably crooked. Not by much, I think only about 6 pixels difference on the bottom and 3 on the right, but it's still there. To get rid of it for the final copy, I just cropped it off, since it was nothing but pink background anyway. Is there a better way to deal with this? Rotating doesn't seem to be the answer, since the image itself appears to be straight. [ filesmelt.com] http://filesmelt.com/dl/IMG_0002_MINIMAL_CROP.pngComments/suggestions would be appreciated.
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Jul 13 2013, 10:51
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I know the problem you're having. I'm not entirely sure why it's always comes out slight off, could be the scanner cover slightly nudging the book or it' just some weird scanning thing, but the only advice I can offer to rotate it and use the Photoshop grid or Ruler Tool to help even it out properly. Up top when you have it free transform, you can nudge the rotation by the pixel(s) for precision if you can't get it right using the regular mouse. I hope this helps.
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Jul 13 2013, 22:22
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qazmlpok
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Finished scanning it. Cropped, resized to 50% [ filesmelt.com] http://filesmelt.com/dl/Troublesome_Fever_test_scan.rarand then my attempt at leveling it. This was a setting of 0.6 in GIMP on every page. [ filesmelt.com] http://filesmelt.com/dl/Troublesome_Fever_...can_leveled.rarI left these as PNGs, but for a color doujin I'd normally save it as 95% JPGs to reduce file size. The leveling is what bugs me the most, since I honestly have no eye for this. It absolutely needs it, but I can't tell what a good value is. I get the feeling I'm not even supposed to be apply the same setting to every page, either. There was a lot of glue on the pages, and it's clearly visible in the scan. However, this is also present in the existing scan, so I'm assuming this is just an extraordinary case. I did notice the same unevenness at the bottom as with the cover. I think the page just isn't resting flat against the scanner - thus it becomes curved towards the middle but straightens out at both ends. I am closing the lid, of course, so I don't know what else I can do about this. Comments about the final scan quality would be appreciated.
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Jul 14 2013, 01:54
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Super Shanko
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I don't usually level color pages, but I fooled around with it and have this.  I used green hair here to save time. But I adjusted the white to 235 to whiten them as much as possible, but instead of darkening it, I adjusted the grey to make the color more vivid and remove that slight grey fade over it. As for that glue/page rip I dealt with that just by redrawing/editing the crap out of it. It's minor but I know that need to remove it. In which case I suggest you get a dedicated editor or two to deal with it, or just crop it.
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Jul 14 2013, 02:16
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qazmlpok
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I don't know anyone that could act as a decicated editor, and redrawing the pages to get rid of the glue is definitely beyond me if it isn't a solid color.
Would you recommend just not leveling the color pages at all?
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