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> If the new patch totally sucks for you..., Rants and complaints about the awful new HV welcomed.

 
post May 22 2013, 01:58
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QUOTE(sagara kun @ May 21 2013, 00:21) *

what?????????? happy pills are rare drop. OFC why???????? haven't seen any drop of that food for my monsters and they are losing morale................. why?

I totally agree.I can stand losing spells and other things, but watching my monsters starve to death is killing me. Should be at least one monster chow dropped with every battle won.
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post May 22 2013, 02:42
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Chow drops like fucking rain, the hell are you talking about!?
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post May 22 2013, 02:57
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Happy pills that replenish the morale of you monster dude its so freaking rare.
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post May 22 2013, 02:59
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I meant the guy saying chow was rare.
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post May 22 2013, 03:18
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First I want to say I like the new layout, the ability to build my unique character.

However my character is so week I can't even win Battle Arena Level 1 on IWBTH, whereas before I've kicked Level 5 on IWBTH Difficulty. So does the new patch suck.... sadly yes 4/5s of my previous abilities.

I made sure I specialized in spells but I don't have Tier 3/4 like I used too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
More Ability Points should have been given!

Where is my 100k of credits for Aura Training?

Where are the missing 2/3rds of my Battle Slots?

Where are the other 1/2 of my magic points? Its only 600 when it used to be over 1000!

Where is the other 1/2 of my Health points?

Where is the other 1/2 of the Damage my spell used to do?
(again I made sure to put all ability points into magic/spells!)

Where is XNerf? I guess I'm not high enough level anymore! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

So does the new HV SUCK? Yes it has sucked at least 1/2 of everything I used to have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


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post May 22 2013, 03:21
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QUOTE(Super_Mew @ May 21 2013, 19:59) *

I meant the guy saying chow was rare.

I must be on the unlucky side then, because I've played about 20 battles and I've had exactly 3 chows drop.
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post May 22 2013, 03:26
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QUOTE(Negai @ May 21 2013, 21:21) *

I must be on the unlucky side then, because I've played about 20 battles and I've had exactly 3 chows drop.

You play on Normal?
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post May 22 2013, 04:18
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QUOTE(Super_Mew @ May 21 2013, 20:26) *

You play on Normal?

Yeah. I played on hard before (or the third level I can't remember). The change reset me to normal, and I left it there. Will I get more chow at higher difficulty?
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post May 22 2013, 04:39
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Normal gets plenty of chow; I just ran through the 125 round arena on normal and got about a dozen chow drops. My 6 critters are low-enough-level that they all require chow. :|
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post May 22 2013, 04:41
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QUOTE(Negai @ May 21 2013, 18:18) *

Will I get more chow at higher difficulty?

Other way around, lower difficulties give better chances for lower tier foods.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Food
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post May 22 2013, 05:56
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Monster chow is not really an issue... That is provided you actually trained Scavenger AND Luck of the Draw to at least Lvl 10 each... Good luck if your monsters require edible or cuisine level food... You'll have them starve in no time.

If you didn't train those skills, monster drop rate is even more awful and you can actually fight many battles and still not get any... Me? In 5 days of fights, arenas and grindfest now, still have got only ONE happy pills.

The main problem is, if they wanted to discourage multiple-account monster farming of materials and bindings then they should have made said materials artifact-rare-rate drops instead of adding dumb costs that will not hamper said schema in the least and WILL discourage new players from joining or low level players because there will be NO WAY for them to improve their gear outside of IW.

And in case no one noticed, our monster's levels also got nerfed and their stats lowered but no crystals or their cost were refunded... My main monster: Raidou Kuzunoha, Humanoid, Lvl 306, previously 11 STR, 14 DEX, and 12 all other stats, lost 6 STR, 9 DEX, 5 END and 7 to all other stats... Elemental resistencies remained the same except DARK which was negative since it is a humanoid monster and instead of its +1 (Started at -20) is now +26...

EXCUSE ME? My monster gained new and unwelcomed costs and got its power LOWERED and without PROPER COMPENSATION? Sheeeeeeeeeesh!

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post May 22 2013, 06:01
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ May 21 2013, 19:56) *

AND Luck of the Draw

Has no effect on monster food drops.

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if they wanted

Who is "they"?
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post May 22 2013, 06:12
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 21 2013, 23:01) *

Has no effect on monster food drops.
Who is "they"?


"They" are the people who made/suggested/implemented said changes.

And if Luck of the Draw doesn't affect Monster Food drops then it is even worse, as supposedly Luck of the Draw "improves" the chance of getting higher tier/quality drops (namely the figurine-rare-rate-drop Happy Pills).

Ungodly high leveled players who have unholy-powerful stats and gear just don't care... But not EVERYONE is Lvl 300 or above... Hell! I have read negative comments on this awful patch from Lvl 200+ players!
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post May 22 2013, 06:42
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ May 22 2013, 02:36) *

Good for you!

Now if you could sell it to the bazaar for what the item shop bot's current bid is (27000 c), you could make up for lost credit drop...

Too bad the bazaar buys for only 4c...

56 9 River Boa dropped [Happy Pills]

Two. TWO!!

I think that the drop rate is slightly better in our favour, but still arse-backwards, as are just about all the other aspects of the game currently.
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post May 22 2013, 19:00
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We want a rollback, we want it hard, we want it fast :V

Many of the new things have been implemented badly and what was working has been ruined.
Cooldown mechanic? Seriously? ... :|
I was playing it quite a bit some days ago, then the patch hit. I totally stopped playing, can't stand it.

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post May 22 2013, 20:05
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QUOTE(laarix @ May 22 2013, 09:00) *

We

You misspelled "I".
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post May 22 2013, 20:42
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2013, 13:05) *

You misspelled "I".


But of course "you" don't want a rollback and neither of the hyper-leveled players who have won awards, still have access to auras, have ability points to throw left and right and their ungodly powerful equipment/skill set barely took a hit.

Why don't "you " consider how low level players feel about having their already sparse and scarce resources be lowered even further, their credits, abilities, spells, ítems, crystals and ability points taken away unfairly and without proper compensation or the unpayable and unaffordable new costs?

If you don't mind this unfair turn of events that much, then why don't you start giving away Happy Pills for free to low level or starting players? Or equipment? Or crystals? Or even better... Have those things taken away from you without warning or compensation... After all... This unfairness to others doesn't seem to faze you even a tiny bit so why would it towards yourselft?

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post May 22 2013, 21:15
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QUOTE(doomgaze @ May 22 2013, 10:42) *

still have access to auras

lolwut?

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have ability points to throw left and right

I've had to train over 30 levels of Ability Boost... and I'm still going. I wish I had points to spare.

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Why don't "you " consider how low level players feel

They just need to get bootstrappy. Players who know what they're doing are having a blast. Players who faceroll in cheap gear and expect credits to fall from the sky are the biggest of the whiners. Hell, those who listened and read about all the coming changes (which we were told about weeks in advance) were able to brace for everything just fine. The game now has a skill floor for once.

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then why don't you start giving away Happy Pills

I have yet to have even 1 drop for me. I also don't need them since crystals are a cheaper option. Everyone with monsters under PL 400 clambering for these are idiots.

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Have those things taken away from you without warning or compensation...

Everything taken away from players was done universally so lowbies are no worse off. Rich players will always have an advantage so this patch even added bigger sinks to soak up their money.
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post May 22 2013, 21:38
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I gotta say I was pretty pissed off when the new patch dropped, probably more my fault for not reading the HV threads enough. So now I can get through approximately 30 or so rounds before I get squished on IWBTH.

I'm still pissed about that 750 hath that I wasted on getting those auras. Also the spastic amount of credits I spent buying artifacts for ability points.

Now I have to grind just to keep my monsters happy. I think that's pretty annoying because I used to just enjoy doing my randoms.

It was a browser clicky game, now it's a life sucking abyss like WoW.
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post May 22 2013, 22:20
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2013, 15:15) *

lolwut?
I've had to train over 30 levels of Ability Boost... and I'm still going. I wish I had points to spare.
They just need to get bootstrappy. Players who know what they're doing are having a blast. Players who faceroll in cheap gear and expect credits to fall from the sky are the biggest of the whiners. Hell, those who listened and read about all the coming changes (which we were told about weeks in advance) were able to brace for everything just fine. The game now has a skill floor for once.
I have yet to have even 1 drop for me. I also don't need them since crystals are a cheaper option. Everyone with monsters under PL 400 clambering for these are idiots.
Everything taken away from players was done universally so lowbies are no worse off. Rich players will always have an advantage so this patch even added bigger sinks to soak up their money.


I'm going to admit that with the small exceptions of the retirement/imminent removal of the Average and Superior potion tiers that doesn't appear to have a proper rationale behind it, I'm enjoying this game more than before now that I've had my main complaint satisfied, that being the previous drought of available upgrades pre-100.

I'm just going to say this: higher level players were and probably will continue to completely lack empathy for their lower leveled counterparts. arxdwen demonstrated this disturbingly well a few days ago when discussing potions by claiming my situation should be similar to his ability-wise, despite the fact he has almost four times as many levels as I do. He obviously didn't know the difference between a level 80 and level 300. I'm asking for you guys to think about our situations first before you start comparing yourselves to us as equals despite often a 150+ level difference
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