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You have ALL the numbers and formulas. They are in the patch notes.

We don't have monster spawning distribution. And using average pl now wont give proper numbers since everything over 1250 can be treated as 1250, lowering observed pl

jenga201 is working on that, but he's 379....

jenga201 is working on that, but he's 379....

Assuming the selector still biases heavily toward the highest mobs you can face, Jenga being 379 won't make that much difference. Everyone at ~270+ will meet the same mobs at IWBTH if that is the case.

If pl increases drop rates. Doesn't that reduce credit rates since they can only drop if nothing else does?

Along those lines, if the monster drops bonus crysals in grindfest, it can not drop credits right? And this bonus rate tops out at 12.5%?

This post has been edited by skillchip: Jul 10 2013, 00:29

How does the drop roll mechanism go?
I have been reading http://ehwiki.org/wiki/drop_roll

Does it roll a random number at every "xxx Roll"? Suppose you get a drop. Then without training the chance to get an artifact is actually: (1-4%)*0.1% = 0.96%, instead of 0.1%? I think a single roll for Eq, Arti, Token, Item will solve this issue. 0.0

This post has been edited by FiniteA: Jul 10 2013, 04:02

I think a single roll for Eq, Arti, Token, Item will solve this issue. 0.0

What issue?

@PK: You can't balance stuff around only the top end.

@Joe: the issue of some trainings reducing the chance of drop for other things.

the issue of some trainings reducing the chance of drop for other things.

You mean the infinitesimally small reductions that Tenboro is well-aware of and over which he gives 0 fucks? Yea... not a big issue.

You mean the infinitesimally small reductions that Tenboro is well-aware of and over which he gives 0 fucks? Yea... not a big issue.

Clearly not a believer in the butterfly effect.

What issue?

There is a issue if 0.1% is intended instead of 0.96%.
Meaning that an equipment roll will possibly starve an artifact roll.

There is a issue if 0.1% is intended instead of 0.96%.
Meaning that an equipment roll will possibly starve an artifact roll.

...artifacts... what we need right now... right?

If pl increases drop rates. Doesn't that reduce credit rates since they can only drop if nothing else does?

No. It corrects for that.

Along those lines, if the monster drops bonus crysals in grindfest, it can not drop credits right? And this bonus rate tops out at 12.5%?

No. Those are independent drops.

Why do you people care about stuff that would make up <1% difference averaged over time? The drop mechanism is as it is, I'm not changing stuff over trivial crap like that.

If pl increases drop rates. Doesn't that reduce credit rates since they can only drop if nothing else does?

I rather have gear drops any ways.
More fun to rage about a bad loot roll than a low Credit roll (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

No. It corrects for that.
No. Those are independent drops.

Why do you people care about stuff that would make up <1% difference averaged over time? The drop mechanism is as it is, I'm not changing stuff over trivial crap like that.

Because it takes 3 lines to code correctly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Let p1=0.1, p2=0.2, p3= otherwise = 0.7
Let r be the roll in [0,1]

For each p[i]{
r -= p[i];
if(r <= 0){ type i drop; return; }
}

Because it takes 3 lines to code correctly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Let p1=0.1, p2=0.2, p3= otherwise = 0.7
Let r be the roll in [0,1]

For each p[i]{
r -= p[i];
if(r <= 0){ type i drop; return; }
}

There should also be a 'if Catgirl = better rolls' line (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Sure. Result: NAN, catgirls get no drops.

Sure. Result: NAN, catgirls get no drops.

Justice or Hard trolling?

Justice or Hard trolling?

Probably a mix of both (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)