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Jun 11 2013, 06:10
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etothex
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QUOTE(andywong @ Jun 10 2013, 21:08)  Move to the HentaiVerse 1.0. Delete all data. No more melee and mage. All players are the same, no more equipment drops. Everyone is same with speed limit, everyone can only do 1 turn/second. Wow, it is balanced (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) we should all have the same username and avatar too.
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Jun 11 2013, 06:14
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cavecricket48
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 10 2013, 23:48)  I'm biased towards fun
Bullshit. You're biased towards the math.
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Jun 11 2013, 06:17
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skillchip
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QUOTE(cavecricket48 @ Jun 11 2013, 04:14)  Bullshit. You're biased towards the math.
Yeah, and I'd like for the math to say that the sides are fair
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Jun 11 2013, 06:23
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(andywong @ Jun 10 2013, 23:08)  Move to the HentaiVerse 1.0. Delete all data. No more melee and mage. All players are the same, no more equipment drops. Everyone is same with speed limit, everyone can only do 1 turn/second. Wow, it is balanced (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And retire equipment, items, custom monsters, arena, IW, and GF? Only naked 1v1 hourlies. And rename HV to Legacy Battle. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jun 11 2013, 06:24
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Jun 11 2013, 06:31
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skillchip
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2013, 04:23)  And retire equipment, items, custom monsters, arena, IW, and GF?
Only naked 1v1 hourlies. And rename HV to Legacy Battle.
Hath Perk to unlock, and Gold Star+ get it for free
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Jun 11 2013, 08:08
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Pickled_Cow
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QUOTE 123 13 You gain 1000 Credits! 123 12 You gain 1281450 EXP! 123 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 123 10 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token] 123 9 Arena Clear Bonus! [Superior Shade Helmet of Negation] 123 8 Urd dropped [1230 Credits] 123 7 Skuld dropped [5x Crystal of Lightning] 123 6 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling] 123 5 Verdandi dropped [Monster Cuisine] 123 4 You are Victorious! And here is IWBTH Urd. Damn Urd, 24 hours ago, I didn't even know that your were a real word. Now I know you're loaded.
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Jun 11 2013, 08:20
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cavecricket48
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 11 2013, 00:31)  Hath Perk to unlock, and Gold Star+ get it for free
Pay 5 dollars a month for continued service!
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Jun 11 2013, 08:55
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MikukoAya
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 10 2013, 20:48)  I'm biased towards fun
I'm biased towards pain and suffering.
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Jun 11 2013, 10:33
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Lement
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Anomtai: original monster credit drops are unchanged, you just didn't pay attention enough before.
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Jun 11 2013, 10:43
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buktore
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2013, 09:12)  How about we give melee 3 tiers of regular attacks, with the current melee being T3. Then give it a cooldown of 5 turns. Then the T2 can be weaker and have shorter cooldown. Then make T1 be weaker still but have no cooldown, so you are forced to play the entire time with a fraction of your actual power. And if it's a 2H with domino, make T1 have a max of 53 targets. Sound fun? I didn't think so.
So you're saying that melee is OP and need to be nerf? ... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I don't mind that, actually... But will that make you happy? QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 11 2013, 11:17)  Yeah, and I'd like for the math to say that the sides are fair
How could math do something like this? This post has been edited by buktore: Jun 11 2013, 10:55
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Jun 11 2013, 11:00
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Lement
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If you have math that properly estimates quantity versus complexity.
If 50% is mage, 50% is melee is that fair?
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Jun 11 2013, 11:04
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buktore
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 11 2013, 16:00)  If you have math that properly estimates quantity versus complexity.
Elaborates QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 11 2013, 16:00)  If 50% is mage, 50% is melee is that fair?
It's mean people choose to play both style equally— nothing more, nothing less. It's has nothing to do with balance or the more troublesome to define ' fair' And that's no math— it's data. This post has been edited by buktore: Jun 11 2013, 11:53
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Jun 11 2013, 12:00
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 11 2013, 16:04)  Elaborates It's mean people choose to play both style equally— nothing more, nothing less. It's has nothing to do with balance or the more troublesome to define 'fair'
And that's no math— it's data.
Statistics (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jun 11 2013, 12:12
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Lement
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Anomtai: Eh.
Well, they should be unchanged over time *shrugs*
that said, I'd prefer if you posted stuff like: today I got XXXX credits from all arenas, as opposed to average of YYYY at <another time, perhaps yesterday>.
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Jun 11 2013, 12:15
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MSimm1
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 10 2013, 23:23)  And retire equipment, items, custom monsters, arena, IW, and GF?
Only naked 1v1 hourlies. And rename HV to Legacy Battle.
Rename HV to Supercalafragalisticexpialadoshus. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 11 2013, 12:37
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teddy.bear
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Jun 11 2013, 05:32)  If you don't use spirit stanced great cleave for bosses you are doing it wrong. Also running through the dual-wield skills is still the fastest way to clear schoolgirl marathons and RoB with dual-wield (which is still slow as fuck compared to mage).
I would rather not spend an hour or 2 doing a school girl marathon with 2hand. SS great cleave does not do enough damage to make school girl marathons even remotely viable. Before it was nerfed you could at least do some IWBTH schoolgirl rounds for exp but there is no longer any point. The only bosses that I regularly came across where T&T and it was much faster (time wise and turn wise) to simply imperil the target for bonus elemental damage and hold down the key switching to a new target when the current was half dead. And I always used my holy set for ROB, not that I could now if I wanted to as I have no ability points for it......
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Jun 11 2013, 12:50
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elda88
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 11 2013, 12:23)  Only naked 1v1 hourlies.
Great, I'd like to see someone taking on FSM with nothing but their bare fists.
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Jun 11 2013, 12:56
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Jun 11 2013, 02:37)  I would rather not spend an hour or 2 doing a school girl marathon with 2hand. SS great cleave does not do enough damage to make school girl marathons even remotely viable. Before it was nerfed you could at least do some IWBTH schoolgirl rounds for exp but there is no longer any point. The only bosses that I regularly came across where T&T and it was much faster (time wise and turn wise) to simply imperil the target for bonus elemental damage and hold down the key switching to a new target when the current was half dead. And I always used my holy set for ROB, not that I could now if I wanted to as I have no ability points for it......
Skills have to crit to do good damage now. So high crit helps. As for schoolgirl marathons, first two should definitely be done with dual-wield for melee. DwD has too many rounds with multiple girls so two-hand is probably faster though. Holy/dark mage is still the best at schoolgirl arenas though (high level holy/dark). This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jun 11 2013, 12:58
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Jun 11 2013, 13:45
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DarkDespair5
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jun 11 2013, 06:50)  Great, I'd like to see someone taking on FSM with nothing but their bare fists.
Monk Style now! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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