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Is it bad if I like WIS on my armors?

No, I like it too. In fact, 3 out of 5 of my shade pieces have wisdom and I think it's awesome. But, well, for example, Dan31's helmet we just saw: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=94898b23c2

5 PABs, but 2 are intelligence and wisdom. I don't know about you but I'd rather have a fat endurance roll on my legendary rather than be trolled by mage PABs. I mean, look at Ichy's legendary shadowdancer he just got: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=feb1062d6a . I've never seen one roll with such nice melee PABs. Intelligence and wisdom being gone from light armor is one of the best things that ever happened, imo. Finally it can at least attempt to compete with heavy on melee PABs.

Is it bad if I like WIS on my armors?

Wisdom was damn awesome on my armor

TB should add an additional roll for wisdom and/or int if the armor already rolled 4 PAB

I have yet to see wis/int since patch

Would you mind asking him in IRC what is up? He should have noted this in the release notes. Loosing those PABs makes it hard to create a nice malee caster.

No, I like it too. In fact, 3 out of 5 of my shade pieces have wisdom and I think it's awesome. But, well, for example, Dan31's helmet we just saw: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=94898b23c2

5 PABs, but 2 are intelligence and wisdom. I don't know about you but I'd rather have a fat endurance roll on my legendary rather than be trolled by mage PABs. I mean, look at Ichy's legendary shadowdancer he just got: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=feb1062d6a . I've never seen one roll with such nice melee PABs. Intelligence and wisdom being gone from light armor is one of the best things that ever happened, imo. Finally it can at least attempt to compete with heavy on melee PABs.

If I wanted melee, I'd go Power of Slaughter, but for light I want wis to boost MP and int to boost Spell damage/hit chance.

Edit: wait they removed int/wis from of the Arcanist, too? That's fucked up.

This post has been edited by dragon695: Jun 10 2013, 03:05

Would you mind asking him in IRC what is up? He should have noted this in the release notes. Loosing those PABs makes it hard to create a nice malee caster.

It's hard to be a melee caster, because you aren't supposed to be one

If I wanted melee, I'd go Power of Slaughter, but for light I want wis to boost MP and int to boost Spell damage/hit chance.

Edit: wait they removed int/wis from of the Arcanist, too? That's fucked up.

I wouldn't mind WIS staying on Light, but INT was retarded, and they shouldn't crowd out good stats

This post has been edited by skillchip: Jun 10 2013, 03:07

Wisdom was damn awesome on my armor

TB should add an additional roll for wisdom and/or int if the armor already rolled 4 PAB

Would you mind asking him in IRC what is up? He should have noted this in the release notes. Loosing those PABs makes it hard to create a nice malee caster.

You guys are insane asking for wis/int to roll on light armor again. Do you know how many pieces I've seen trolled by those PABs? I'm so fucking glad to be rid of them. Now when I finally drop my legendary fleet/sd I don't have to worry about which PABs I rolled. Not to mention it drags down the rest of the rolls.

they

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malee caster.

May the force be with you.

Most I've seen is a single drop of ~210 credits.

23 14 You gain 5203858 EXP!
23 13 Valkyr Maiden dropped [7x Crystal of Fortitude]
23 12 Lord Kazzak dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
23 11 Lisette Vertorre dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
23 10 Diablo I dropped [214 Credits]
23 9 N3k0 dropped [Superior Leather Breastplate of Protection]
23 8 Cat Sith Dragon dropped [275 Credits]
23 7 Ccddtte dropped [217 Credits]
23 6 Diablo V dropped [Fine Buckler of Protection]
23 5 Succubus dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
23 4 You are Victorious!
23 3 Valkyr Maiden has been defeated.

Most money I've seen from an hourly >.>

Spells have no effect if you don't have a staff and phases on. It's pointless to try to cast spells in light armor, even if they all roll intelligence and wisdom. Melee/caster is not a viable build. If tenboro wants it to be he's gonna have to put a magic damage or edb boost on arcanist or something.

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Thank you,. Joe Friday. Goodness knows what I'd do if you hadn't pointed out the mistake. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, I don't need super-maxed out PABs, that's something I've already dealt with in the spread of my Stat Point assignments. The whole reason I chose light was because it provided a reasonable compromise between melee and mage. Armor with balanced 5-6 PAB rolls wasn't too hard to find. But now, this is really shit. I can't believe even Shade of the Arcanist doesn't roll for Wis.

Spells have no effect if you don't have a staff and phases on. It's pointless to try to cast spells in light armor, even if they all roll intelligence and wisdom. Melee/caster is not a viable build. If tenboro wants it to be he's gonna have to put a magic damage or edb boost on arcanist or something.

Obviously it isn't going to be as efficient/effective as having Phase/Staff, but it was quite workable in 0.7.5. If you equipped yourself with a decent elemental battlecaster weapon (two if DW) and some good kevlar/shade of the arcanist, then it was quite playable. The problem with you folks is you let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Anyway, even if not playing melee mage, I'd still want wis on light because I need ever drop of mana I can get.

This post has been edited by dragon695: Jun 10 2013, 03:22

The whole reason I chose light was because it provided a reasonable compromise between melee and mage. Armor with balanced 5-6 PAB rolls wasn't too hard to find. But now, this is really shit. I can't believe even Shade of the Arcanist doesn't roll for Wis.

*facepalm* Light never provided a balance between melee and mage. Only thing that was ever provided was extra mana from wisdom (usually at the expense of other more important PABs). Even full arcanist idoesn't work, the only thing the magic accuracy is good for is landing debuffs. Anyway, adding intelligence and wisdom to arcanist is pointless if it doesn't have some other spell boosting stat. On fleet/sd/negation it was a complete waste.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jun 10 2013, 03:39

Obviously it isn't going to be as efficient/effective as having Phase/Staff, but it was quite workable in 0.7.5. If you equipped yourself with a decent elemental battlecaster weapon (two if DW) and some good kevlar/shade of the arcanist, then it was quite playable. The problem with you folks is you let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Anyway, even if not playing melee mage, I'd still want wis on light because I need ever drop of mana I can get.

It's not playable at high levels. You can't play IWBTH casting spells in melee gear. I have tried and I have better arcanist than you probably. Huge changes would have to be made to arcanist armor to make it viable like I said.

*facepalm* Light never provided a balance between melee and mage. Only thing that was ever provided was extra mana from wisdom (usually at the expense of other more important PABs). Even full arcanist is pointless, the only thing the magic accuracy is good for is landing debuffs. Anyway, adding intelligence and wisdom to arcanist is pointless if it doesn't have some other spell boosting stat. On fleet/sd/negation is was a complete waste.

Like I said, combined with a decent elemental/holy/dark battlecaster weapon(s), it worked reasonably well. Expecting it to be anything like traditional maging is missing the point, Of course I did not expect it to have all the trappings of Phase/Staff where you got massive EDB/MDB. Even without those, I slotted my T2/T3 AP to max and was able to serve up enough damage to matter when stuck with the lack of AoE that DW faces. Very convenient, if you ask me. But post-patch I was focused on my 2-H build. Good for you that your play style got boosted! I would prefer the option of having gear with all PABs possible, even if it reduces the odds of getting PERFECTION. Different strokes for different folks, and all.

Even without those, I slotted my T2/T3 AP to max and was able to serve up enough damage to matter when stuck with the lack of AoE that DW faces. Very convenient, if you ask me.

What difficulty level are we talking about? I would love to be able to launch AOE that do actual damage then hack away, I just don't think it's possible.

It's not playable at high levels. You can't play IWBTH casting spells in melee gear. I have tried and I have better arcanist than you probably. Huge changes would have to be made to arcanist armor to make it viable like I said.

You are probably correct that MDB/EDB would have to be added (probably scaled significantly lower so as to be fair to cloth users), but I was willing to settle with playing at lower difficulty since having started as pure melee, IWBTH was always too much of a chore. Maybe I'm doing it wrong and quite possibly my pipe dream is totally unworkable now with all the nerfs to magic in general, but we'll have to see since I need to grind more for profs to get my T2/T3 back.

What difficulty level are we talking about? I would love to be able to launch AOE that do actual damage then hack away, I just don't think it's possible.

Probably too low for your tastes: Hell. I was going to move up to Nintendo eventually, but the patch hit and I needed to figure out what I was going to do since I hadn't grinded my spell profs quite as much as I should have and I don't have any assimilator.

I guess I do everything different (bathtub effect tenboro mentioned), since lots either play Normal/IWBTH, but honestly Hell/Nightmare was a very comfortable place to be, and still is. I probably won't get Legendary drop ever, but oh well.

No, I like it too. In fact, 3 out of 5 of my shade pieces have wisdom and I think it's awesome. But, well, for example, Dan31's helmet we just saw: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=94898b23c2

5 PABs, but 2 are intelligence and wisdom. I don't know about you but I'd rather have a fat endurance roll on my legendary rather than be trolled by mage PABs. I mean, look at Ichy's legendary shadowdancer he just got: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=feb1062d6a . I've never seen one roll with such nice melee PABs. Intelligence and wisdom being gone from light armor is one of the best things that ever happened, imo. Finally it can at least attempt to compete with heavy on melee PABs.

Yeah I guess, but WIS is nice. INT can go fuck itself, though. So useless.

Yeah I guess, but WIS is nice. INT can go fuck itself, though. So useless.

What was the rationale for removing MP gain from INT again? I'm pretty sure both wisdom and intelligence provided MP before this patch...

well the real question is, why take str out of the HP equation