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Jun 7 2013, 02:43
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 6 2013, 15:56)  And it probably is.
Nope.
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Jun 7 2013, 02:59
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n125
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Ether/Spirit Theft is coupled to holy/dark because you need to cast holy and dark spells to proc Soul Fire and Ripened Soul. Idea: Add another special ability slot called "Spell Proc Augmentation" or something. Abilities that could be slotted into it include -Better Explosion Damage -Better Proc Effect (i.e., enhances Blunted Attack's damage reduction, Freezing Limbs' speed reduction, etc) -Soul Fire -Ripened Soul -etc QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jun 6 2013, 17:43)  Nope.
Yay~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 7 2013, 03:26
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 7 2013, 07:59)  Ether/Spirit Theft is coupled to holy/dark because you need to cast holy and dark spells to proc Soul Fire and Ripened Soul. Idea: Add another special ability slot called "Spell Proc Augmentation" or something. Abilities that could be slotted into it include -Better Explosion Damage -Better Proc Effect (i.e., enhances Blunted Attack's damage reduction, Freezing Limbs' speed reduction, etc) -Soul Fire -Ripened Soul -etc Yay~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm pretty sure you get corruption for free at a certain level. You only need points in the proc. So I'm still not understanding why it's coupled to holy/dark when every single mage can cast corruption provide they have the levels for it. I'm a holy mage, and I use Spirit Theft. Yet I don't complain about how I have to spend points exactly the same way as an elemental mage would in Ripened soul in order to get the proc. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Jun 7 2013, 03:54
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cavecricket48
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Is there any way to make playing Tamogotchi less expensive? Or add a 3rd morale raising mechanic?
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Jun 7 2013, 03:58
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J99814
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 6 2013, 17:59)  Idea: Add another special ability slot called "Spell Proc Augmentation" or something. Abilities that could be slotted into it include
-Better Explosion Damage -Better Proc Effect (i.e., enhances Blunted Attack's damage reduction, Freezing Limbs' speed reduction, etc) -Soul Fire -Ripened Soul -etc
If you were going to modify the explosion to enhance it, would making explosion have a multi-target effect to that be possible? Obviously, if that were to be an option, there should only be one slot for it. That would make how you choose to mage as important as choosing to mage. So you could have your spells proc ripened soul in addition to normal, or you could have the explosions spread, or you could (say) double the proc effect (but not the resistance reduction), or you could have each explosion do more damage, or maybe you could increase the chance of the proc effect happening.
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Jun 7 2013, 04:09
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dragon695
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jun 6 2013, 20:06)  I wouldn't, but then that'll be too OP and everyone else would complain (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well right now you only really need to spend the points into soul fire/ripened soul and the drain points. I don't see how coupled it is to holy/dark. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Or you mean we should have 2 separate spells that applies those procs that also needs to be upgraded, deals shit damage and tiny range + cooldown, and then having to use drain on top of that? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) How about no seperate proc at all and just have it work whenever drain is successful cast. Still, the cooldown on drain is too long to make it useful at all.
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Jun 7 2013, 04:09
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buktore
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 7 2013, 07:59)  -Better Proc Effect
No one cares...
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Jun 7 2013, 04:11
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Cronauron
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 6 2013, 22:09)  No one cares...
Actually, that could be helpful to all builds that use the spike shield augmentations.
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Jun 7 2013, 04:13
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buktore
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Mage don't give a shit about spike...
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Jun 7 2013, 04:17
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dragon695
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 6 2013, 22:09)  No one cares...
And there's already too much shit clogging up expensive-as-fuck Mastery slots. These Mastery Slots really ought to just disappear, since the whole notion of flipping on/off abilities makes no sense. Once you learn something, you should know it, period. That we have to slot shit on TOP of spending AP is just dumb and cheap "balancing" (eventhough it doesn't balance a damn thing).
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Jun 7 2013, 04:34
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(dragon695 @ Jun 6 2013, 18:17)  the whole notion of flipping on/off abilities makes no sense.
So... no more ability resets?
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Jun 7 2013, 04:39
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jun 7 2013, 04:34)  So... no more ability resets?
Sure, why not. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jun 7 2013, 04:44
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n125
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QUOTE(J99814 @ Jun 6 2013, 18:58)  Obviously, if that were to be an option, there should only be one slot for it. That would make how you choose to mage as important as choosing to mage. So you could have your spells proc ripened soul in addition to normal, or you could have the explosions spread, or you could (say) double the proc effect (but not the resistance reduction), or you could have each explosion do more damage, or maybe you could increase the chance of the proc effect happening.
Yeah, that's the idea. One special slot (make it cost 1 MP) with which to customize spell procs to complement your style. You could swap the proc augmentation around between battles, but you'd only be able to go into battle with one. And yeah, I didn't picture enhancing resistance reduction as an option, because there's already a few ways to do that, especially for elemental magic. QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 6 2013, 19:13)  Mage don't give a shit about spike...
Before the patch I actually used Frost Spikes all the time for the odd -25 wind reduction here and there. It cost virtually nothing to maintain, so there was no reason not to have it up.
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Jun 7 2013, 05:40
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PK678353
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 6 2013, 21:13)  Mage don't give a shit about spike...
Elemental mage loves spikes. I'll take basically free -25 resist against my element, thank you very much. Not consistent, but it adds quite a bit of damage when it procs.
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Jun 7 2013, 05:40
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dragon695
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jun 6 2013, 22:34)  So... no more ability resets?
If that is the cost of removing Mastery Slots, then yes I could live with that.
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Jun 7 2013, 05:43
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J99814
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 6 2013, 19:44)  Yeah, that's the idea. One special slot (make it cost 1 MP) with which to customize spell procs to complement your style. You could swap the proc augmentation around between battles, but you'd only be able to go into battle with one.
And yeah, I didn't picture enhancing resistance reduction as an option, because there's already a few ways to do that, especially for elemental magic. Before the patch I actually used Frost Spikes all the time for the odd -25 wind reduction here and there. It cost virtually nothing to maintain, so there was no reason not to have it up.
I very carefully avoided mentioning elemental, holy, or dark magic for a reason - whether it would apply for each proc separately or to all procs you inflict is a design choice. I was trying to name them so that what you use would depend on what you were doing. If you are using elemental weapons, you probably want the procs to reduce resistance. If you are trying for explosions, either explosion damage or spread would probably be preferred. If you harvest mana or spirit, then that would be an option even if you don't use a staff. If you really need those procs for damage boosting, raising the chance of them landing would be best. Maybe melee procs would be desirable? You could have one that raises the spread of domino strike, maybe? This would be very strong, though. You could have one that allows procs to stack without expiring, so lowbies can build up those 5x stacks. [elemental, holy and dark procs should probably have a max stack depth of 1]. You could have one that lets your weapon explode the procs you inflict, even. Possibly. And for all of that, only one you can use at a time. Should I take this to another thread, and build up some specific numbers for it?
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Jun 7 2013, 05:55
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JJ_Zalem
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A roll of 500+ is needed for medium-grade and 1500+ for high-grade. Thus at PL 499 low-grades will no longer be received and the chance to receive a high-grade starts. At PL 1499 the chance to receive a high-grade maxes out. PL has no effect on what gifts are received otherwise.
I've got one 700PL and five above 500PL mobs. Why they're still giving me low-grade stuff ?
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Jun 7 2013, 06:19
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Maximum_Joe
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Wiki is based off of old data.
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Jun 7 2013, 06:22
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buktore
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 7 2013, 09:44)  Before the patch I actually used Frost Spikes all the time for the odd -25 wind reduction here and there. It cost virtually nothing to maintain, so there was no reason not to have it up.
QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jun 7 2013, 10:40)  Elemental mage loves spikes. I'll take basically free -25 resist against my element, thank you very much. Not consistent, but it adds quite a bit of damage when it procs.
Precisely— absolutely nobody (mage, at least) give a shit about the proc effect itself, which is what my original reply to n125 was all about. The only thing matter to you guys is the generic mit reduction and explosion. Even before the spike change that essentially made it free to use now, I actually cast it all the time just for those small and useless effect, which I doubt is something mage would care to do, and for a good reasons... And when I tried suggesting, like what n125 did just now, that why not make it better somehow then? ... I got a reply from a few mage which basically said to me : "Shut up, We don't care" .... Whatever... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) This post has been edited by buktore: Jun 7 2013, 06:40
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Jun 7 2013, 08:09
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 6 2013, 21:35)  Mage and m3lee felt tye same when frith visited Without Frith around, I have no idea what to nerf anymore. QUOTE(cavecricket48 @ Jun 6 2013, 22:49)  Not sure if serious or trolling They did, actually.
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