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post Jun 5 2013, 07:13
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QUOTE(dragon695 @ Jun 5 2013, 13:11) *

I wondered why he would treat someone who has contributed to site as much as you have (judging by the toplist awards) in such a way. It seems that time/effort invested in the gallery side are not as valued as one might expect.


Nah, to be perfectly honest, what I did wasn't much. Just going through galleries and rating stuff, etc etc.
I used to have a top position in the Tagging list though, but that was way too much trouble to keep doing.
edit: Oh yeah, and also the Clean-up/Vigilante toplist, but again, way too troublesome.
edit2: Oh those were the days lol. I remember Shadow-Weaver always getting on my case for being such a bad tagger. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 5 2013, 07:15
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QUOTE(dragon695 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:11) *

I wondered why he would treat someone who has contributed to site as much as you have (judging by the toplist awards) in such a way. It seems that time/effort invested in the gallery side are not as valued as one might expect.


If you bitch hard enough, Tenboro will disown you it appears.

Whether or not he's a good parent/fuher is another story, though. I'm not yet old enough a child of this website to judge.
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:21
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QUOTE(MikukoAya @ Jun 4 2013, 20:45) *

Meh, as I have honestly learned that I should give up on expecting stuff I use to not get nerfed each patch.

Just stray from flavour of the month builds and you should be fairly safe. If 1 build represents too large a percentage of the playerbase you can bet something's gonna give.

QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jun 4 2013, 20:48) *

Well, you seem to have complete immunity.

I've been somewhat scolded before (not for anything recently).

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Even a fellow "VIP club"

Not a club. Most of the "VIP"s are either mods or people I recommended for veto power to help with tag cleanup.

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said that you were being way too douchey.

Man, I miss old Weaver...

QUOTE(dragon695 @ Jun 4 2013, 21:11) *

I wondered why he would treat someone who has contributed to site as much as you have (judging by the toplist awards) in such a way. It seems that time/effort invested in the gallery side are not as valued as one might expect.

It doesn't entitle you to anything besides the rewards already given (i.e. the awards). Plenty of people contributed a lot but then took on a noticeably bad attitude which in turn basically nullified whatever good relations they had with Tenboro. One of these days I may pay the price for my MLP hatred... maybe... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:26
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jun 5 2013, 13:21) *

Not a club. Most of the "VIP"s are either mods or people I recommended for veto power to help with tag cleanup.

I know, it's just funny how the wiki page is called "E-Hentai VIP"
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Man, I miss old Weaver...

... You mean he changed? The hell? I was thinking here he was, still smacking around bad taggers and shit.

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One of these days I may pay the price for my MLP hatred... maybe...

Hah! That's one thing I have over you. I actually became a MLP fan!
.... I feel so dirty saying that.
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:28
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jun 4 2013, 17:35) *

HV was designed to be played with one hand only (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Why? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Sounds like we have democracy in HV. 3000 of posts and nothing comes out.
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:35
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jun 5 2013, 03:43) *

It's hilarious how somebody who doesn't even spend a lot of time playing this game is defending all these nerfs.


You're actually arguing with a sock puppet. A sleeping agent, to boot.
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:42
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jun 4 2013, 21:26) *

I know, it's just funny how the wiki page is called "E-Hentai VIP"

Well I couldn't think of another name. "People With Certain Abilities Granted To Them Based On Their Merits As Contributors To The Site" seemed a bit much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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... You mean he changed? The hell? I was thinking here he was, still smacking around bad taggers and shit.

He barely does anything anymore. Just gets mad at the occasional tag-related suggestion. Hell, he barely even tags (ranks #37 for this year so far). Bad taggers are handled almost exclusively by binglo and myself.
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post Jun 5 2013, 07:49
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... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

After reading many pages back, I still can't figure it out what exactly does mage actually want— all I saw were people appeared to be emotional while trying their best to keep up with the smartass act; just like real-life Politics...


You guys are doing it wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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post Jun 5 2013, 08:29
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*WHINNNNNEEEEEE*

ahhhhh... thats was therapeutic... and somewhat im back... after a talk with god and ate medium baked potatoes from the local swamp... im finally accepting that the new update make us a big favor... Buy Apple!!!

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post Jun 5 2013, 08:36
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 5 2013, 12:49) *

... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

After reading many pages back, I still can't figure it out what exactly does mage actually want— all I saw were people appeared to be emotional while trying their best to keep up with the smartass act; just like real-life Politics...
You guys are doing it wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


Basically we want patch 0.75 back.

Here are the mage guild's demands:
  • Make prof as useful as it was prepatch. As it stands it contributes next to nothing into mage's offense.
  • Revert the changes on cooldown and ranges, and differentiate tiers by burning soul proc chance, cast speed, mana cost and damage.
  • Less resist, not more resist. Now every mob has an innate resist chance from stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
  • Imperil being useful for dark/holy mages.
  • Bring back 2x damage on target.

I also suggested some ways to change prof to matter more in the suggestion thread, hopefully Tenboro reads them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 5 2013, 08:40
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jun 5 2013, 06:36) *

Basically we want patch 0.75 back.

Here are the mage guild's demands:
  • Make prof as useful as it was prepatch. As it stands it contributes next to nothing into mage's offense.
  • Revert the changes on cooldown and ranges, and differentiate tiers by burning soul proc chance, cast speed, mana cost and damage.
  • Less resist, not more resist. Now every mob has an innate resist chance from stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
  • Imperil being useful for dark/holy mages.
  • Bring back 2x damage on target.
I also suggested some ways to change prof to matter more in the suggestion thread, hopefully Tenboro reads them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


For all the players: Remove the elixirs from artifacts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 5 2013, 08:44
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Jun 5 2013, 14:40) *

For all the players: Remove the elixirs from artifacts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


For once, I'll agree with Joe on what he suggested:

Add it as a bonus to the existing rewards.
So you get stuff like 3 Hath + 2 Elixirs, or Crystals + Elixir, etc.
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That's better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Still...

QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jun 5 2013, 13:36) *

Basically we want patch 0.75 back.
...

Revert the changes on cooldown and ranges, and differentiate tiers by burning soul proc chance, cast speed, mana cost and damage.


PROTIP: Don't ask for something to be change back— it never work...

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post Jun 5 2013, 09:10
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I would add that Ripened Soul should be returned to the more EtherTap-like way it was, but that too is asking for a rollback.

I guess the real question is:
Has anyone figured out a way to make Mana/Spirit Theft useful?
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post Jun 5 2013, 09:14
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@buktore: What I want of mage: to have a place where you can play at least a hour(so not RoB, IW/arena/GF yes) where it is preferable to melee if you live in or near europe.

Though I also agree with making prof clothes useful/making the spell target meaningful beyond range(which was quite important part in the skill of mage), the first one doesn't necessarily mean mages at all - curse-weaver has been neglected for quite long. So yeah, legendary gossamer/staff of prof not being automatic [→salvage] would be nice.

Neither of course needs reverting anything, in fact if say earth-walker/priestess gave access you to higher tier spells/their higher level upgrades it could be interesting - though that probably wouldn't be enough for curse-weaver barring some very specific cases and mixes. As for offensive prof ones, the simple change of base multiplier would raise the values of all existing and future prof gear by a factor, making one not need to swap out as many pieces for a given prof above level.

QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jun 5 2013, 07:29) *

Well, what else is there to do in this thread? If reading patch criticisms is getting to him, he should just close the thread then.

Yeah, low level appears to be buffed. Who cares? Once they get to high-level, they would suffer the same nerfs that others have anyway. And only then will they complain.
My point still stands: If you haven't spent much time playing this game, then you most probably don't know what you're talking about.


My point was that your point, while true, is not relevant to the patch, and having same criticism repeated past certain point is just white noise - though I imagine bigger point is bugfixes also, other than testing.

If there's nothing relevant to topic to post, might as well not post at all.
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post Jun 5 2013, 09:30
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 5 2013, 15:14) *

My point was that your point, while true, is not relevant to the patch, and having same criticism repeated past certain point is just white noise - though I imagine bigger point is bugfixes also, other than testing.

If there's nothing relevant to topic to post, might as well not post at all.


No, there is a point. I wanted to avoid a situation like the Ether Tap change, where Tenb said he listened to a bunch of low level mages whining for a change to ET. Every mid-high level mage (well, except danixxx) was like "the fuck, where is that shitty mage, i wanna strangle him".
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post Jun 5 2013, 10:02
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jun 5 2013, 06:44) *

For once, I'll agree with Joe on what he suggested:

Add it as a bonus to the existing rewards.
So you get stuff like 3 Hath + 2 Elixirs, or Crystals + Elixir, etc.


It sounds like a kind of reasonable solution.

Compare elixir's value with other rewards, it's merely a bonus. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:04
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true or getting at least 500 or/to 1000 cristals or some happy pills (1 to 3 for example) those things are so rare that i have dropped only 2 since the patch. And elixirs should really be a bonus reward.

But regarding monster morale there should be a mechanic to let monster gain morale without crystal or pills for example a daycare where the monster can relax itself you wont have any loot from it during it's "vacation" but the morale bar could refill slowly.

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post Jun 5 2013, 11:06
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This showed up une minute ago in the Item Shop.

Interesting...
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:08
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 5 2013, 05:49) *

... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

After reading many pages back, I still can't figure it out what exactly does mage actually want— all I saw were people appeared to be emotional while trying their best to keep up with the smartass act; just like real-life Politics...
You guys are doing it wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


Make things simple (Or more complicated? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

Mage want 'One shoot, All dead'.

No matter TenB changed, just the result can be fulfilled is fine.

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