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Even if I have to do this for over 700 pieces of equipment?

This post has been edited by ferchan: Jun 1 2013, 03:52

You popped a potion to save yourself from death.

You win the round.

You picked up a potion from your fallen enemy's corpse.

For some odd reason, even though you had it in your hands a few seconds ago, you enter a new round..................

And though you had a spare item slot, said potion is nowhere to be seen.

That's not a bullshit snafu right there. At all.

This is what I'm talking about, seriously! C'mon TenB, HV is the only game where you can't even restock from dropped items. Even /tg/ would cry foul.

Not sure if this is hearsay or not, but apparently 2-handed tier 2 and tier 3 skills got the shaft damage-wise. Intentional?

A) Bugfixes fix unintended behavior. This has nothing to do with if that behavior makes sense or not.

B) As for making sense in concert of infusions and scrolls, pots take lot of room and you can't pick stuff up in the middle of battle series, otherwise mobs will dogpile you. Even when stunned they can still at least fall on top of you when you're kneeling. You can't hold unlimited amount of infusions/scrolls in 1 slot either, the number is just much larger.

But let's say all pots were replaced with healing tokens(not to be mistaken with late healing tokens) that you could hold same number in 1 slot as infusions/scrolls. Now, there are few ways to go with this: They are so rare that you cannot use them wantonly, much like scrolls of the god. They heal so little they only make you lose slightly less slower, not rejuvenate you. The monsters are buffed a lot, as to make sure that when you're over your head you will die. You are rewarded according to how many you used in a battle series. One, several or all may take effect to have it remain somewhat balanced. Others may see further ways to balance this.

But none of them sound more pleasant than current system. Though reward being dependent on pots used would give some shine to illthid/battlecaster/focus equipment, for one. Not better than current system, but it could be horribly bad but still allow to keep a resemblance of current battle system.

@ferchan: That's not even that much....

This post has been edited by Lement: Jun 1 2013, 03:57

So yeah, why not?

Same reason there are now limits to GF drops. You're not supposed to be able to play indefinitely in a battle series. Considering you couldn't restock pots mid-battle since.... ever I'm wondering why you even bothered to ask now.

This is what I'm talking about, seriously! C'mon TenB, HV is the only game where you can't even restock from dropped items. Even /tg/ would cry foul.

How about adding a training that increases the max amount of Gems you can hold? I mean, losing Gems is tulry, truly, truly outrageous.

How about adding a training that increases the max amount of Gems you can hold? I mean, losing Gems is tulry, truly, truly outrageous.

STOP IT I WANT TO REMAIN HETEROSEXUAL

A) Bugfixes fix unintended behavior. This has nothing to do with if that behavior makes sense or not.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) As for making sense in concert of infusions and scrolls, pots take lot of room and you can't pick stuff up in the middle of battle series, otherwise mobs will dogpile you. Even when stunned they can still at least fall on top of you when you're kneeling. You can't hold unlimited amount of infusions/scrolls in 1 slot either, the number is just much larger.

But let's say all pots were replaced with healing tokens(not to be mistaken with late healing tokens) that you could hold same number in 1 slot as infusions/scrolls. Now, there are few ways to go with this: They are so rare that you cannot use them wantonly, much like scrolls of the god. They heal so little they only make you lose slightly less slower, not rejuvenate you. The monsters are buffed a lot, as to make sure that when you're over your head you will die. You are rewarded according to how many you used in a battle series. One, several or all may take effect to have it remain somewhat balanced. Others may see further ways to balance this.

A)The intent is bullshit, therefore it is not a bugfix, rather a case of moronic game mechanics.

B)Or you could count items carried into battle against encumbrance (burden), like you do in table-top RPG gaming. That way you are punished for carrying too many potions, but you don't have to waste your jew gold on stupid trainings just to get more slots, which should be a feature of equipment (clothing/bag/knapsack/belt).

And again, HV is the only game I know of where, even if limited to n battle slots, you can't restock from items you pick up between rounds of battle. Don't give me the dogpile bullshit, as if mobs would just wait their turn to fight you, meahwhile the corpses of the defeated would not pile up. There is no need to "balance" this, as the availability of potions dropped is rather sparse now. Perhaps you did not notice how most of our potion drops got replaced by fucking monster food instead?

Same reason there are now limits to GF drops. You're not supposed to be able to play indefinitely in a battle series. Considering you couldn't restock pots mid-battle since.... ever I'm wondering why you even bothered to ask now.

Because the "bug" and discussion of it has brought to light something which never sat right with me, not that I have been playing all that long. After all, it was your insistence on /a/ that if we couldn't run h@h, that we should play HV instead. But you know, it is pretty much shit now with the credit nerf. So if we have to grind more, then it should be more manageable. That is all.

This post has been edited by dragon695: Jun 1 2013, 04:30

Even if I have to do this for over 700 pieces of equipment?

Just keep the Leg/Mag/Ex then press sell all.
There should have only <30 left.

Joe, I know you have a hard-on for this game, but still I don't see the reason for it other than to punish you if you don't spend your jew gold to buy more item slot "trainings" (wtf is with training for eq features). Also, scrolls restock. Pretty arbitrary, there Joe Friday. So yeah, why not? Or at the very least why not let us restock from any pots in loot drops?

You popped a potion to save yourself from death.

You win the round.

You picked up a potion from your fallen enemy's corpse.

For some odd reason, even though you had it in your hands a few seconds ago, you enter a new round..................

And though you had a spare item slot, said potion is nowhere to be seen.

That's not a bullshit snafu right there. At all.

So you can go on forever? Think before you speak, please.

Even if I have to do this for over 700 pieces of equipment?

Fucking duh. Why did you let it reach 700 pieces in the first place? Besides, once you get used to it you can pretty much just glance and know what's shit.

How about adding a training that increases the max amount of Gems you can hold? I mean, losing Gems is tulry, truly, truly outrageous.

Why not just use them as they appear? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You're just being greedy, now.

A)The intent is bullshit, therefore it is not a bugfix, rather a case of moronic game mechanics.

B)Or you could count items carried into battle against encumbrance (burden), like you do in table-top RPG gaming. That way you are punished for carrying too many potions, but you don't have to waste your jew gold on stupid trainings just to get more slots, which should be a feature of equipment (clothing/bag/knapsack/belt).

And again, HV is the only game I know of where, even if limited to n battle slots, you can't restock from items you pick up between rounds of battle. Don't give me the dogpile bullshit, as if mobs would just wait their turn to fight you, meahwhile the corpses of the defeated would not pile up. There is no need to "balance" this, as the availability of potions dropped is rather sparse now. Perhaps you did not notice how most of our potion drops got replaced by fucking monster food instead?

Because the "bug" and discussion of it has brought to light something which never sat right with me, not that I have been playing all that long. After all, it was your insistence on /a/ that if we couldn't run h@h, that we should play HV instead. But you know, it is pretty much shit now with the credit nerf. So if we have to grind more, then it should be more manageable. That is all.

The intent is to fix something that shouldn't happen, i.e. unintended behavior. Whatever you may think, it is a bug, and so it should be fixed.

The mechanic is not moronic, but rather it's you. You don't really spend much time considering the outcome of your whiny suggestion, do you?

I know what you thought. You thought it's an easy way to get further into the game. Yay, I'll just spam pots like in Diablo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Also, for the restocking from drops thing. Let's see. Is there any other game that allows you to have up to 1000 pieces of equipment in a storage area somewhere? Or hundreds of thousands of items like health pots, mana pots stocked up somewhere? God, some people... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

As for the grind more thing, you know you can just spend less, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Why not just use them as they appear? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You're just being greedy, now.

I use them as I need them. Why use a Spirit Gem when my Spirit is full? And by the time my spirit does drop enough to use a gem, I may have already missed several gems that had dropped while I held on to it.

All of you guys defending the inventory limit during battles should atleast admit that it is indeed stupid that you can't use the potions you just picked up.

The only reason it's that way is for game balance. It is stupid, but it's also the only way to not break the game.

All of you guys defending the inventory limit during battles should atleast admit that it is indeed stupid that you can't use the potions you just picked up.

The only reason it's that way is for game balance. It is stupid, but it's also the only way to not break the game.

It's not really stupid if you imagine HV as a dungeon crawler game where you never gets any rest from monster waves unless you're outside of the fighting area. Therefore, you don't really have time to put the potions into your potion slot, only enough time to teleport the loot into a personal stash somewhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So you can go on forever? Think before you speak, please.

Is there a problem with grinding more in a grinding game? Think before you speak plis.

It's not really stupid if you imagine HV as a dungeon crawler game where you never gets any rest from monster waves unless you're outside of the fighting area. Therefore, you don't really have time to put the potions into your potion slot, only enough time to teleport the loot into a personal stash somewhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That doesn't make sense either.

If you are fighting endless monsters, then they shouldn't come in groups of 6-9, but automatically spawn in your screen the moment you kill one. There shouldn't be multiple rounds, just 1 LONG round of infinitely spawning monsters.

Is there a problem with grinding more in a grinding game? Think before you speak plis.

There is. You gain too much reward and break the game balance and game economy. Game design 101, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That doesn't make sense either.

If you are fighting endless monsters, then they shouldn't come in groups of 6-9, but automatically spawn in your screen the moment you kill one. There shouldn't be multiple rounds, just 1 LONG round of infinitely spawning monsters.

A dungeon has a width, which basically makes it to be like a funnel. Imagine a funnel funneling monsters at you, and you're the meat grinder (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

A dungeon has a width, which basically makes it to be like a funnel. Imagine a funnel funneling monsters at you, and you're the meat grinder (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So then, I should be able to just cast Sleep on all 9 monsters in front of me, and pick up all the loot and restock my potions.

Let's see. Is there any other game that allows you to have up to 1000 pieces of equipment in a storage area somewhere?

Monster Hunter. Said storage area can also hold stuff like crab claws the size of people in stacks of 99.

Well played.

So then, I should be able to just cast Sleep on all 9 monsters in front of me, and pick up all the loot and restock my potions.

Fine fine, have it your way. I don't want to waste time discussing schematics in a browser text game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)