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Anybody knows what happened to the shadow veil spell? I'm lvl 74 and I can't find it anywhere.

Hey guys keep in mind that these "terrible changes" may in fact be a bug. There has been plenty fixed as it is. Tenboro is in the IRC and fixing things live.

Offensive spellcosts and targeting deprecating spells are two I saw fixed while in chat. In fact fixing the offensive spellcost bug changed the cost of Ragnarok from 100 to 50 for me.

And before you say "He should have tested it beforehand!", that would involve getting a group of testers who wouldn't leak (good luck with that). not to mention running a separate test HV.

So join the chat and report possible bugs (he seems to be most actively fixing ones reported in chat), or post em here instead of whining about the changes. It will make things go a lot smoother.

BUG1 - Where is the refund on artifacts converted to ability points?
BUG2 - Where is the free training for item slots unlocked using ability points?
BUG3 - Regen is too expensive to cast and is way too stingy on the return, as noted above.
BUG4 - Cure is too expensive to cast and is way too stingy on the return, as noted above.
BUG5(Regression) - Spark is crap now, put it back to the way it was.
BUG6 - Credit drops aren't right, the amount of credits being dropped is absurdly low even at the highest difficulty.

Also "testers who wouldn't leak" doesn't matter since he should publish the proposed changes in addition to soliciting for testers to test them. Kills two birds with one stone and allows time for feedback (even from non-testers) before forcing the change.

This post has been edited by dragon695: May 18 2013, 17:11

I couldn't help notice my Monster levels had dropped about 11 levels.

And that Manbearpig etc. have disappeared from RoB.



Overall, I find this new version annoyingly impossible. I can't even manage a few rounds on Grindfest now, whereas before I could at least last around 80.

This post has been edited by Jigsy: May 18 2013, 17:16

Finally got *everything* working and finished a 35 round IWBTH arena and a daily without getting udderly creamed. I'm a dual wield/heavy with some niten/light on the side that I'm working on, so I'm not too affected by the things mages complain about.

I'm not too fond of the new 5 round CD on cure. Yes, you're supposed to use a potion or burn a lot of mana with a Full-cure. The need for mana seems to increased further as I need to recast buffs A LOT and Heartseeker only lasts 1/3 of the rounds it used to.
Surely a subtle kick to the groin to remind us to invest a few ranks into innate arcana already.

Overall I'm okay with the new version.

i'm not , still complain about credits drop nerf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

we got new costly training but credits drop just meeeh even in IWBTH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)



increase credits drop tenb , we all not rich likes HTTP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Anybody knows what happened to the shadow veil spell? I'm lvl 74 and I can't find it anywhere.

you need level up

This cool down on spells is really fucked up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I can't find "ALL" in equipment shop,now I have to sell things 7 times

are you kidding me?tenboro

I play every style (besides one-hand)

You are level 350, you have no room to talk.

OK Ignoring HV until its fixed. Maging is fucked up to the core.

Expected 0.76 will be bad, but never thought it will be this BAD.

Just... this.

random encounter would make the scale of HV window look really wired

Uh, yeah, log out time!

I do believe another poster mentioned receiving 40 credits a round in Nightmare or something and in IWBTH I was receiving 50-60.

What's wrong with this picture? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The good news is that I can do Arena on IWBTH, I couldn't do it before with the all-too-frequent parrying that frustrated me enough to rage quit, haha.

The bad news is again what I said before the mana cost and turns for abilities, the mana cost is too high and the turns they last too low, couple this with a nerf (except when re-training) of Battle Items and you have way too few especially with mana bleed to really keep up and don't forget to dedicate one or two of those battle items to Health Potions (which really are quite effective) for when you don't have enough mana for Full-Cure (Cure is pretty much useless now in IWBTH) or Full-Cure is on cooldown.

Unless I'm missing something?

I suppose I could just lower the difficulty and be satisfied with the almost nothing credits awarded.

Perhaps it's time I return to Console gaming or even Civilization III.

Hmmm....hope some good balancing comes in soon because overall I like the concept behind the abilities and I also feel that armors are more evened out.

So yeah, I lost half my HP, half my MP in order to gain 30 SP max with 80+ ability points with nothing worthwhile to put in them.

And I thought Windows ME was a failure. I'll be back when this fiasco is over.

This post has been edited by Echofinder: May 18 2013, 17:21

Also, too much whining going on. You should just approach it as a new game rather than concentrating on what you lossed/gained.

Basically, this.

Also, when you hit a monster with a divine spell and proc soul fire is activated then cast drain on it you start sucking mana. But if you cast drain first then you hit the monster with a divine spell and proc soul fire the mana sucking do not activate. Not sure if this is the expected behaviour or not.

Anybody knows what happened to the shadow veil spell? I'm lvl 74 and I can't find it anywhere.

Why bother...
you registered in year 08, but still level 74, means you don't even check HV.

Could someone please explain why I am unable to click anything other than the monster during battles?

cause you are, (like me til yesterday), using Internet Explorer, and HV has problems with IE (even with 9.08) now.

I switched to Firefox to play HV now.

I'm actually using Firefox...

then update it, I am using FF 21.0, the game runs just fine even though I find the new patch has broken it in many ways like 90% of the posters in this thread.

Skills and items are unusable in IE9.
So I can't use IE9 to fight and my firefox is very slow, can you fix the bug please Tenboro?

As stated before same here. Can we has fix without changing browsers please? (I'm also on an older version of firefox that I'm comfortable with.)

Jesus Christ this is such a massive overhaul change, very interesting stuff to check out.

I don't play much anymore, but I actually love the direction this is going.

Not loving it at this patch right now, but I think I agree with the general idea.

I can't find "ALL" in equipment shop,now I have to sell things 7 times

are you kidding me?tenboro

This. I don't understand the reasoning behind this decision.

I read the entire change log...I have no goddamned clue what is going on.

As stated before same here. Can we has fix without changing browsers please? (I'm also on an older version of firefox that I'm comfortable with.)

Firefox 17.0.6 all working for me. I needed to disable HVSTAT and another script, although.

Also, did anyone noticed that we are gaining shitloads of EXP? 1 battle on normal with 3 mobs gives ~50k EXP (OK, this is with gold star and 150 AL. But before I was getting around 1k). Getting to level 400 might not be that hard, I could say that the game scalled up in level.