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Wow, is proficiency ever difficult to build now. I leveled to 366 last night and after having finished half of my arenas so far today, my Elemental proficiency grew from 365.00 to only 365.07. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Is it just harder because of spell cycling / cooldown? Or was the proficiency gain rate lowered in this patch?
If it indeed got lowered, then +1 to tediousness and grinding yet again lol.

edit: sounds like it got lowered. I remember easily maxing my Elemental/Divine prof after leveling just by doing a few Arenas.

This post has been edited by Rei-Tenshi: May 25 2013, 04:48

I doubt you'll see another one in this, or your next seventeen lives. >_>

This statement was proven false roughly 5 minutes ago.

Just misread Scroll of Absorption as "Scroll of Abortion"

Just misread Scroll of Absorption as "Scroll of Abortion"

"Grants the Aborted Fetus status effect"

dp

This post has been edited by etothex: May 25 2013, 05:11

Is it just harder because of spell cycling / cooldown? Or was the proficiency gain rate lowered in this patch?
If it indeed got lowered, then +1 to tediousness and grinding yet again lol.

edit: sounds like it got lowered. I remember easily maxing my Elemental/Divine prof after leveling just by doing a few Arenas.

I cast nothing but wind spells to attack so you'd think my Elemental proficiency would dart right to the cap. I knew the proficiency gain chance was changed, but I didn't think it would be this slow until actually seeing it for myself.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I just finished another arena and it's still stuck at 365.07.

Is it just harder because of spell cycling / cooldown? Or was the proficiency gain rate lowered in this patch?
If it indeed got lowered, then +1 to tediousness and grinding yet again lol.

edit: sounds like it got lowered. I remember easily maxing my Elemental/Divine prof after leveling just by doing a few Arenas.

formula got changed,

- The chance of gaining proficiency when using a spell is now directly tied to the cost of the spell compared to your base magic points.

Holding down r to spam weaken for 400 turns got me .05 dep prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Tediouso tedio! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

* Interested In *

How many melees can do IWBTH 1000 rounds in GF?
How about change it to 750 rounds?
How many melees can do IWBTH Leg IW 200 ROUNDS in 10 minutes?




By the way, I just think that 308 is a melee (also can be mage, but just put him in melee first as so many people here talking about him as a melee),
but he cannot represent the melee group of HV.
Making a change is not just looking at the holy holy top top player of a style,
it should also take care 200-350 groups. (sorry for 200 below, but I think you can play more if you are enjoying HV and finally will reach some point (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

* Interested In *

How many melees can do IWBTH 1000 rounds in GF?
How about change it to 750 rounds?
How many melees can do IWBTH Leg IW 200 ROUNDS in 10 minutes?
By the way, I just think that 308 is a melee (also can be mage, but just put him in melee first as so many people here talking about him as a melee),
but he cannot represent the melee group of HV.
Making a change is not just looking at the holy holy top top player of a style,
it should also take care 200-350 groups. (sorry for 200 below, but I think you can play more if you are enjoying HV and finally will reach some point (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

But but...!

Nobody ever compares to Lement or varst or Bunker Buster, but they're mages too! They keep yapping shit like "QQ Mage is so OP cause danixxx can clear IWBTH DwD in 10 minutes without ETing". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So is it fair to mages?

8 13 The effect Cloak of the Fallen has expired.
8 1 You cast Disintegrate.
7 1 You cast Smite.
6 1 You cast Corruption.
5 1 You cast Cure.
4 11 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen.
4 10 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But but...!

Nobody ever compares to Lement or varst or Bunker Buster, but they're mages too! They keep yapping shit like "QQ Mage is so OP cause danixxx can clear IWBTH DwD in 10 minutes without ETing". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So is it fair to mages?

So my words are natural.
That's also applied to mages.

Ah, as I don't know so much about mages, may you provide some top-interested like
How many mages can do IWBTH DwD in 10 minutes?
How about change to 15 minutes? (I think this is fair? Although I am not living near the server, I think I got some a little bit good gears still taking around 35 minutes to clear)

Mages were bragging? What? Do you even know who the strongest and richest guy in this game is?
Mages don't brag about speed because they know that Melee is capable of clearing Legendary 200 Iwbth IW in 10 mins. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean its impossible.

Mages have the strongest monsters? Do you not even know who Http is?

And you don't seem to understand. Mages aren't blaming Melee for the nerfs, we're blaming Tenboro. We already knew from the start that mages were inferior in terms of survival and deep GF/IW clear speed. We chose mage because we want short,fast clear speeds on stuff like Arenas. Now even that was taken from us.

Also, you have no idea what you're saying. "Adapt"? Yeah, we'll adapt all right. By switching to Melee. There is now zero reason to mage when melee can do everything they can, but better.

Mages WERE bragging: 'Come to the dark side' 'Melees are dumb' 'we can onshot rounds' 'my magic score is better than yours' ...ana so on. Who were able to sell all those crytal packs? Mages because of farming.

Until now I only know one melee guy who can do Legendary 200 IWBTH IW on 10 min. However did he do that by meleeing or maging? You say that there are more melees who can do that? Then tell me their names as I'm ot so sure about that.

I know who HTTP is. I bought some of my best gear from him. But he is doing both styles!

Mages aren't blaming melees? Why are they then constantly telling that melees have it better and should constantly get nerfed in the last patches. When a melee say that he has been nerfed their has been so many mages who blamed him that he had to be nerfed even more and that the only way to play HV should be as a mage. Don't say I'm wrong as I have experienced and watched that more than once.

Before many players who begun as melees switched to become mages. Why? Surely not without reason! Why are there much more plaiyng mage style than melee style? Surely not without reason!

Also, you have no idea what you're saying. "Adapt"? Yeah, we'll adapt all right. By switching to Melee. There is now zero reason to mage when melee can do everything they can, but better.

Before melees adapted by switching to mages, now it is the other way around. But again, Don't accuse the melees for what they are able to! I guess that once all you mages have swithed over Tenboro might nerf melee style just as much and what will you say then?...

Why does no one talk about me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Small bug: You can now flee a round, and instead of losing mana, you gain it, possible minor exploit?

PS: HTTP said he did it as melee

This post has been edited by skillchip: May 25 2013, 06:21

Mages WERE bragging: 'Come to the dark side' 'Melees are dumb' 'we can onshot rounds' 'my magic score is better than yours' ...ana so on. Who were able to sell all those crytal packs? Mages because of farming.

Show me a post then, where people are saying that.

Until now I only know one melee guy who can do Legendary 200 IWBTH IW on 10 min. However did he do that by meleeing or maging? You say that there are more melees who can do that? Then tell me their names as I'm ot so sure about that.

It doesn't matter if only one guy can do it. The fact that he can do it is the point. It means that the strongest melee is way better than the strongest mage.

Mages aren't blaming melees? Why are they then constantly telling that melees have it better and should constantly get nerfed in the last patches.

Because they are better. They were better last patch, and they sure as hell are way better now. That's why Tenboro nerfing mages is such a ridiculous move. It's like he has no idea how people play his own game. He'll just keep citing stats like "oh, 60% of people are maging, that must mean mages are OP!" and then proceed to nerf them.

edit:

Why are there much more plaiyng mage style than melee style? Surely not without reason!

It doesn't matter if there are more people playing a particular style. Everybody could switch to using 1Hand+Shield right now but it wouldn't make it OP.

People might simply be ENJOYING playing it. You ever think of that?

This post has been edited by Rei-Tenshi: May 25 2013, 06:33

8 13 The effect Cloak of the Fallen has expired.
8 1 You cast Disintegrate.
7 1 You cast Smite.
6 1 You cast Corruption.
5 1 You cast Cure.
4 11 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen.
4 10 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.

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SoL is back now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

There needs to be more whining about the PA nerf, imo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Went from -100% to 3 stacks of -33% each to now 3 stacks of -25% each (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) . My poor rapier, removing 14% accuracy off of it and gimping the proc at the same time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

There needs to be more whining about the PA nerf, imo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Went from -100% to 3 stacks of -33% each to now 3 stacks of -25% each (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) . My poor rapier, removing 14% accuracy off of it and gimping the proc at the same time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

You can always switch to maging, you know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

There needs to be more whining about the PA nerf, imo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Went from -100% to 3 stacks of -33% each to now 3 stacks of -25% each (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) . My poor rapier, removing 14% accuracy off of it and gimping the proc at the same time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

and about skill OC damage multiplier too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Show me a post then, where people are saying that.

Saying what? That maging is better? That maging is faster? I said that they told that BEFORE 0.76.

It doesn't matter if only one guy can do it. The fact that he can do it is the point. It means that the strongest melee is way better than the strongest mage.

That one guy can do it. But what about that mage who can do DWD in an equally fast time?

Because they are better. They were better last patch, and they sure as hell are way better now. That's why Tenboro nerfing mages is such a ridiculous move. It's like he has no idea how people play his own game. He'll just keep citing stats like "oh, 60% of people are maging, that must mean mages are OP!" and then proceed to nerf them.

Mages knew that a nerf was coming. But look at the posts in the former patch thread. They were making fun of what was about to come. However they were surprised and shocked about the huge size of that nerf. I'm also taken aback by all those changes and even if I haven't been maging much in the past I sympathize with you.

Before I had the intention to become a melee/dark mage but now I will surely stick as melee. Because of my high level I will have to face the most powerful monsters and due to my low mage profs it would be a difficlut experience. And I don't want to constantly switch my AP around from melee APs toward mage APs and back again even if a reset is free atm.

P.S. You still didn't tell me about the other melees who can do IWBTH 200 round IW in 10 min.