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Of course it's not like when I was doing 80k+. But the mobs ain't got 80k+ hp anyway.

At full OC and max hits pre-patch I could get over 2.5 million damage with frenzy. Now I am lucky if I get close to 1 million. But schoolgirl HP is considerably less on IWBTH now so it's not really a huge deal to me, also as I said I get faster real time speed with using infusions and spirit stance. Anyway, it just sucks cause DW didn't need a nerf, it already has an extreme limitation of being able to only hit one enemy at a time besides frenzied. DW and one-hand are the two fighting styles that really need no more gimping, lol.

I'm really getting tired of trying to read through this
whole thread mostly because of a relatively small set
of users, maybe a handful of you-know-who-you-are,
who insist on sharing their diarrhea in the form of
ONE HUNDRED BILLION
replies, maybe one sentence in length each, all of
which have nothing to do with the thread topic, AT ALL!
Now I know I've been guilty of this myself but hey,
some here take it to unbearable extremes, rendering
this thread into mostly shit, destined for the shithouse.
By now I've read every post up till #1356 and among the
gems I've found are Tenboro's replies which are gems by
default, Mamixum Joe's breaking news about temporary
free ability resets which helped me A LOT, Skillchip's
graphics which helped me understand what the fuck is
going on, everyone's complaints about the total turdification
of maging, which helped me steer away from that build,
and everyone's whining about wasted mastery points,
which helped me not waste such points unneccesarily.
Many more things can be added but at this moment I'm
too lazy to remember what else deserves to be mentioned.

you forgot about the widescreen pool... just to remember it.

I'm really getting tired of trying to read through this
whole thread mostly because of a relatively small set
of users, maybe a handful of you-know-who-you-are,
who insist on sharing their diarrhea in the form of
ONE HUNDRED BILLION
replies, maybe one sentence in length each, all of
which have nothing to do with the thread topic, AT ALL!

Welcome to the internet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . But seriously, your widescreen user opinion count whining annoyed the piss out of me too.

At full OC and max hits pre-patch I could get over 2.5 million damage with frenzy.

I'm really going to regret having Niten's damage moved to 2H :/.

But anyway, yes.

The costs have changed massively, and all existing monsters are now worthless. Here's the new costs versus the old costs...

Wow, that table is quite troubling. Looks like the discount scaled exponentially as the stat went up. Gotta say I can understand why you're so angry/shocked; all those crystals must have taken forever to gather, even if you have the crystal perks. But I guess that's good news for low level players like me, who still don't have many crystals to invest into their monsters, since we get massive discounts.

Also, it's sad to hear that you just bazaar'd everything you had; I'm sure you had some godly stuff.

On a side note, I just took a look at the WTB subforum and almost cried. All my mage gear that I paid a lot (for me) for are now worthless.

This post has been edited by Demosthenes: May 20 2013, 06:22

I never mage and I just gave it a go for pretty much the first time ever and I gotta say I don't know what you guys are complaining about it seemed easy enough to me and I equipped no magic abilities and used way below average gear and only used smite and the whacking stick

I never mage and I just gave it a go for pretty much the first time ever and I gotta say I don't know what you guys are complaining about it seemed easy enough to me and I equipped no magic abilities and used way below average gear and only used smite and the whacking stick

Yeah, you and a few other people have been claiming that it's rather easy, but I don't see how that can be. At first I thought people claiming to be mages weren't really mages, since they seemed to be equipping melee gear and then using offensive spells and considered themselves mages because they're "battlecasters" or some shit. But if you've equipped a full cloth set and are using a staff and don't find yourself having a tough time, I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Maybe it's how we allocated our stats? Maybe differences in our proficiencies? Maybe bonuses from award auras? I'm not sure.

I never mage and I just gave it a go for pretty much the first time ever and I gotta say I don't know what you guys are complaining about it seemed easy enough to me and I equipped no magic abilities and used way below average gear and only used smite and the whacking stick

They want to be able to AOE facemelt mobs with their strongest spell over and over again like they used to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

After playing for the weekend, I think I will hang up the gauntlets for a while.

-I can't mage cuz I don't have enough ability points/mastery points. 2H heavy only is just so boring and tedious.
-After experimenting with mage, it just sucks. So I am stuck with 2H boring; pigeonholed into playing only one style.
-Can't get APs from artifacts, which keeps me locked into 1 style even longer. What's the point of artifacts anymore? I liked the funny names/descriptions like Smart Bomb, Railgun, etc. What's the point of EDs?
-I don't mind the morale boost via crystals, but food? Can't monsters that kill find their own food? And dragons may not prefer food that mechanoids like (eg, princesses versus motor oil). We are forced to feed them 'chow,' as if they are dogs.
-IWTBH is too easy for melee; there is no challenge. At least bring back x25, so I have something to shoot for (T&T on x25).
-Wide-screen is tough to play. It just seemed that widescreen happened because of the new monster lab layout. But monster food didn't need to happen, and thus widescreen didn't need to happen. I like that there is more slots for skills, but it should be two rows of 8, not one long of 16, and normal size window should be brought back. It's hard to watch both mine and monster health at the same time. Coupled with the fact that HP, MP, SP is lower, SoL gets you only back to 1life, and Cloak only 1turn, I die a lot because I can't pay attention to my gauges but the monsters' all the way on the other side of the screen.
-Such low credit/pots/crystal drops? Fewer arenas? I only got 25k in one day of playing. How will I ever train something like LotD now? Or buy new gear? Hath perks? forging material?
-'All' tab in the bazaar should be brought back. If not to load all available stuff to buy, at least just to sell.
-I don't mind that we do less damage, but such long cooldowns for mage make the game no fun.

I like that Tenboro is trying to improve the game (magic profs, monster gifts, battle inventory, interestingly integrated magic spells, Stat changes), but 0.76 punishes low level players and is no longer fun even for high level players.

I will check in after a month or so and see if some things have reverted back to 0.75.

If not, then.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Sorry for the wall of text, and Good luck to the rest of you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

They want to be able to AOE facemelt mobs with their strongest spell over and over again like they used to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

No, not really, I agree that was OP as fuck. I just want some survivability when I go play a lot of rounds. As I've said before, even on normal going into the arena is inefficient. I have to spend so much more time on buff management and healing myself constantly, so that I only attack once maybe every 5 turns.

Just experimented with frenzied some more, it seems to work very well on IWBTH schoolgirls now if you just wait until max OC and 3x PA, then activate spirit stance and run through the skills in the quickbar one by one (no more building up OC for frenzied cause it doesn't matter anymore). I have been able to kill all of them this way and it is faster real time wise then just hacking away.

36 19 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60691 void damage.
36 18 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 59357 void damage.
36 17 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 68694 void damage.
36 16 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 76698 void damage.
36 15 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 77365 void damage.
36 14 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 79365 void damage.
36 13 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 59357 void damage.
36 12 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 57357 void damage.
36 11 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60024 void damage.
36 10 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 66027 void damage.
36 9 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 58024 void damage.
36 8 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 53355 void damage.
36 7 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 74697 void damage.
36 6 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 61358 void damage.
36 5 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 61358 void damage.
36 4 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60691 void damage.
36 3 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 70028 void damage.
36 2 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 58690 void damage.
36 1 You use Frenzied Blows.

good damage really, not like it used to be but what is? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: May 20 2013, 06:41

Yeah, you and a few other people have been claiming that it's rather easy, but I don't see how that can be. At first I thought people claiming to be mages weren't really mages, since they seemed to be equipping melee gear and then using offensive spells and considered themselves mages because they're "battlecasters" or some shit. But if you've equipped a full cloth set and are using a staff and don't find yourself having a tough time, I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Maybe it's how we allocated our stats? Maybe differences in our proficiencies? Maybe bonuses from award auras? I'm not sure.

I have no magic proficiencies in offensive magic and my stats are geared towards melee, perhaps if you're finding it to difficult try a lower difficulty or if you're finding it to hard on normal maybe you just need better gear or a different fighting strategy.

What type of mage are you I could give you some of my gear if I have any in your type since I don't use mage equipment and you could see if that helps

Yeah, you and a few other people have been claiming that it's rather easy, but I don't see how that can be. At first I thought people claiming to be mages weren't really mages, since they seemed to be equipping melee gear and then using offensive spells and considered themselves mages because they're "battlecasters" or some shit. But if you've equipped a full cloth set and are using a staff and don't find yourself having a tough time, I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Maybe it's how we allocated our stats? Maybe differences in our proficiencies? Maybe bonuses from award auras? I'm not sure.

You're level 121.

The guy you're speaking to is level 365.

Level is a lot more important now. APs, mastery slots, sheer number of spells available.

Other mid-high level mages agree that it is far more survivable now than it was before - I bet a mage can now do even pre-patch insane things such as IWBTH leg IW - but far slower.

I have no magic proficiencies in offensive magic and my stats are geared towards melee, perhaps if you're finding it to difficult try a lower difficulty or if you're finding it to hard on normal maybe you just need better gear or a different fighting strategy.

What type of mage are you I could give you some of my gear if I have any in your type since I don't use mage equipment and you could see if that helps

I am interested in what mode are you play at that make you thinks that its ok.

I have no magic proficiencies in offensive magic and my stats are geared towards melee, perhaps if you're finding it to difficult try a lower difficulty or if you're finding it to hard on normal maybe you just need better gear or a different fighting strategy.

What type of mage are you I could give you some of my gear if I have any in your type since I don't use mage equipment and you could see if that helps

I'm rolling as a pure holy mage with a staff and a full heimdall phase set. These are my equips:
Staff1 Staff2
Helmet
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

My magic proficiencies are all less than half my level, with my staff proficiency just breaking that half mark, since I never bothered grinding much for proficiencies. And yeah, I can't go to a lower difficulty since I'm already playing on normal for the arena and BT for hourly encounters. I spent most of the credits I had on the gear I linked (around 2m), so any help in getting gear for a new playstyle would be appreciated. With free AP resets I might just be able to switch to a melee fighting style, though I have no clue how to play as any of the melee styles nor do I have any proficiencies in them. Only a bit when I was still trying to figure out what to do at level 10. [i.imgur.com] Here's a look at my proficiencies.

I'm struggling to get back to nightmare for 100+ arenas. My equip should be decent, the issue I run into is I'm taking too much damage in the larger group rounds if I cant clear out a bunch of them on the open with T3 dark.


After years of play, I should be able to run on the 3/7 difficulty level :/





Suggestion. Reset all cooldowns at the start of each round.

Just experimented with frenzied some more, it seems to work very well on IWBTH schoolgirls now if you just wait until max OC and 3x PA, then activate spirit stance and run through the skills in the quickbar one by one (no more building up OC for frenzied cause it doesn't matter anymore). I have been able to kill all of them this way and it is faster real time wise then just hacking away.

36 19 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60691 void damage.
36 18 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 59357 void damage.
36 17 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 68694 void damage.
36 16 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 76698 void damage.
36 15 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 77365 void damage.
36 14 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 79365 void damage.
36 13 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 59357 void damage.
36 12 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 57357 void damage.
36 11 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60024 void damage.
36 10 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 66027 void damage.
36 9 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 58024 void damage.
36 8 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 53355 void damage.
36 7 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 74697 void damage.
36 6 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 61358 void damage.
36 5 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 61358 void damage.
36 4 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 60691 void damage.
36 3 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 70028 void damage.
36 2 Frenzied Blows crits Ryouko Asakura for 58690 void damage.
36 1 You use Frenzied Blows.

good damage really, not like it used to be but what is? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

try FB to mikuri & yuki , starrk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

see the damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


i only can kill konata now with FB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 20 2013, 06:54

I have no magic proficiencies in offensive magic and my stats are geared towards melee, perhaps if you're finding it to difficult try a lower difficulty or if you're finding it to hard on normal maybe you just need better gear or a different fighting strategy.

What type of mage are you I could give you some of my gear if I have any in your type since I don't use mage equipment and you could see if that helps

your & his LvL are like heaven & hell , homicid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

LvL playing important role now in this games since to unlock next lvl ability tier need LvL now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Welp, just died again to the hourlies. Guess I need to tone down the difficulty for them, but that feels like bullshit since I used to be able to BT the hourlies just fine.

why you don't try FB with mikuri & yuki , starrk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

see the damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i only can kill konata now with FB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Well yeah, you can't kill them every time, it's like 50% of the time depending on RNG, but most of the time they get close enough to finish off with a few hits. I agree that this would've been shit with the old HP though, only because the schoolgirls now have the old battletoads HP is it doable. Still, quickbar skills are sweet and I'd like to thank Tenboro.

This has been suggested before but next patch have some way to identify the stacks of bleed and PA on an enemy, either by putting a number or changing the color of the icon or something, I get tired of hovering over the PA icon to make sure it is 3x PA before I start frenzied.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: May 20 2013, 06:58