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> There seems to be a small "issue" between "rich" and "poor" players

 
post Mar 24 2013, 16:45
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letmegitdat: It shouldn't be that slow. TBH if you're speaking of normal 1000-2000 rounds is quite lowballing it for normal even for native client for anyone with any practice, 4everlost probably meant higher difficulties. A page load should take 70-140ms+ping to servers+some server-side time+possibly some client-side time for the js and css. Something is rather screwed up with your fox.

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post Mar 24 2013, 21:55
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I agree it is definitely something with firefox, because I'm running the same scripts in chrome and its like a different game...

in fact until I get used to the hotkeys I can't actually keep up with how fast it loads...

anyway I just found this, seems to be better than all my other staffs combined... but then again what do i know...
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=adfe2cfc9d

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post Mar 24 2013, 22:25
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Mar 24 2013, 19:55) *

I agree it is definitely something with firefox, because I'm running the same scripts in chrome and its like a different game...

in fact until I get used to the hotkeys I can't actually keep up with how fast it loads...

anyway I just found this, seems to be better than all my other staffs combined... but then again what do i know...
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=adfe2cfc9d


SRWare Iron is said to be even faster then Chrome. What can also make a big difference is what font you use. I hope you aren't using the default HV font, that this is damn slow.

The more scrips you run the slower HV will be, I only use show gem and next turn thing most of the time.


comment about rich vs poor:

the game shouldn't be setup were you have to spend 10 to 100 M credits on gear just to do something, we have training that "should" let you find gear to use that doesn't suck. Most of that training doesn't cost that much for the early levels.
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:25
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Mar 25 2013, 01:55) *

SRWare Iron is said to be even faster then Chrome. What can also make a big difference is what font you use. I hope you aren't using the default HV font, that this is damn slow.

The more scrips you run the slower HV will be, I only use show gem and next turn thing most of the time.
comment about rich vs poor:

the game shouldn't be setup were you have to spend 10 to 100 M credits on gear just to do something, we have training that "should" let you find gear to use that doesn't suck. Most of that training doesn't cost that much for the early levels.


Yeap but the thing is most people are not satisfied with what they get from the drops so they want better gears. I only bought 1 or 2 stuffs rest are from drops since I can't afford (not yet) Also the sad part is I still didn't get my first mag drop yet ... so leg is only a dream (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) but I am working on it slowly so hopefully things will get better in future. If not well there is always WTS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 25 2013, 07:24
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Grunching:

Remembering the days where you only had the hourly battles and gained like 15 credits per time, when beating the Apathetic Canuck was a matter of getting lucky and hoping it didn't use "MEH".

I actually think the game has the opposite problem, meaning it's too easy to get pretty decent gear. I feel like there has been a proliferation of magnificent-level gear in the last 6 months or so. Of course, legendary gear is still unavailable to the scrubs of the world, but unless you expect to be able to just pick up a game and immediately play on the most difficult level, this should make sense.

The only problem that could seriously affect lower-income players is if some sort of hyperinflation occurs. Right now I believe the rate of good/usable gear dropping is outpacing the natural credit income of the players, and that there are enough credit sinks (crystals for monsters, training, hath perks, upgrading items) to keep the overall economy stable. It'll only be bothersome once catgirl types or HATH crushers (HTTP dude) run out of things to dump credits on, because then the relative prices of items would increase too quickly for poor players to ever catch up.
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post Mar 26 2013, 01:57
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Nope, because the difference between decent 20k/100k lower tier/upper tier equipment isn't that absurdly great with 2000k/10000k although it is definitely noticeable and anyone rich enough has better equips than the first type already.

No, if anyone ever gets bored he can still try taking on Eila. She should be worth more than Paradise lost tree at least...
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post Mar 26 2013, 02:40
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How could I miss such awesome thread full of whining :3 :3 :3 ?

I guess the first 2 posts will be a perfect description what's discussed here about credits and the gap between newbies and "pros" :
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=117886 (take a look at their levels)

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post Mar 27 2013, 13:29
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it's a game for catgirls,not those poors,like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 27 2013, 18:31
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All this reasonable talk about grinding away to awesomeness and it took hard work for the "rich" to get where they are is dumb. Instead, we should demand that the 99% be recognized! Obviously, they used underhanded means and exploited the working class to line their pockets with virtual goods! The poor get poorer while the rich get richer! Occupy HentaiVerse!! Down with the 1%!!!

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post Mar 27 2013, 20:30
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Why not distribute all credits and hath evenly among all workers players?
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post Mar 27 2013, 21:18
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Mar 27 2013, 13:30) *

Why not distribute all credits and hath evenly among all workers players?

I, for one, welcome Tenboro as our Chairman and General Secretary of the Communist Party of HentaiVerse.

Or perhaps he'd prefer to be called Glorious Leader?
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post Mar 27 2013, 22:00
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I, for one, welcome Tenboro as our Chairman and General Secretary of the Communist Party of HentaiVerse.

Or perhaps he'd prefer to be called Glorious Leader?


Communism is kinda meh. How about a monarchy?

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post Mar 27 2013, 22:26
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So let's make him Princess of the Communist Party of HentaiVerse?
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post Mar 27 2013, 22:43
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I remember the older days of HV too. I slogged my way up to around 30 or so before I quit the first time. Then I came back a few months later and it was a little easier. Now it's really easy most of the time for me.
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post Mar 27 2013, 22:52
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 27 2013, 15:00) *

Communism is kinda meh. How about a monarchy?



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post Mar 28 2013, 03:22
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QUOTE(Sillyboy95 @ Mar 27 2013, 13:29) *

it's a game for catgirls,not those poors,like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

How difficult it may be to do sth varies, but in the end it is a game for how much you like it. Setting goals is nice and all but if you like it you'll keep grinding even if you have everything maxed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 3 2013, 20:01
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Well if you have any Haths over I'd gladly "help you out" by purchasing them off your hand ;)
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post Apr 10 2013, 14:51
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Communism is kinda meh. How about a monarchy?


It depends at which level of hierarchy you're.

Socialism - using one person by another one
Capitalism - the same but backwards (couldn't find a proper word for this)

Monarchies are dying out here in Europe, so I guess it's a relic of the past.
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Mar 20 2013, 23:37) *

It can't be helped I am afraid. You just have to progress slowly that's all you can do unless some kind soul donate you million credits and superb gears which is very unlikely. I started playing this game from January this year so I am still a noob myself lol I still struggle to do lot of stuffs but hey you can't do much just take things slowly and move forward bit by bit. As you progress things will get better. Regarding trainings just train what really important right now. For equipments play on low level until either you able to buy good gears or get them from drops.
One thing you have to remember all the rich/high level players you see started just like us from nothing (except for catgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) and gradually they climbed to top.
So bottom line is just keep going and sooner or later you will get what you wish. Good luck

the same for me....
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QUOTE(wolfgirl of autumn92 @ Mar 23 2013, 20:22) *

@letmegitdat
You know you can Get Better gear that you have just by even getting Superior's.
Hell save up some money, "Don't train" and get some good gear.
Cus really All that training is useless if your Gear and weapon's are shit.
It took me for ever to get what I got, cost me I give it over 800k for all of them too.
Here is mine:
HEAD
BREAST PLATE
ARMS
LEGS
FEET
Now my MAGNIFICENT SCYTHE OF SLAUGHTER well, I really "DON'T" wanna do that money I have in that.
Well lets just say the 5 MIO I'm asking for it, has a little more than that in it almost.

holy shit....................I can't fucking believe you are still using those junks. Where is the ex plate Gauntlets of protection I give you long time before? How come you still using those non-protection suffix junk until now??? you gonna be kidding me. You don't know that an EX quality plate of protection gear is even better than an MAG even LEG quality plate gear that come with other suffix? I'm not joking but if you try to sell all ur gears I guess it will be very luck for you to get 100-200K,seriously.
and also, I can tell you that in the current patch, scythe is the second worst 2-handed weapon (NO1 is long sword), I guess it will be better if you keep use your dark strike estoc or a good mace (at least 63+ base damage, 22%+ stun chance, 3PAB with str no less than 7).
btw, you know how much your scythe worth without upgration? It can not be more expensive than 2-Hg metal. Yes, that means, less than 60K. seriously. If I was you, I would definitely salvage it and sell the binding of slaughter (you now can try to sell it for 120K each) and HG metal(30K each) to buy another weapon.
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