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> There seems to be a small "issue" between "rich" and "poor" players

 
post Mar 22 2013, 06:03
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QUOTE(wolfgirl of autumn92 @ Mar 22 2013, 04:49) *

So how bad do you wanna become a Catgirl? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Aren't you already a wolfgirl anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Mar 22 2013, 06:40
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QUOTE(wolfgirl of autumn92 @ Mar 22 2013, 11:49) *

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People these days want to be high-level and strong without putting any time or effort in a game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes, 300 is easy nowadays. You want to go back to the time when it would take 2 years of the grinding you do now just to get to level 200?

And no, you don't need any help from anybody. Nobody among the "long-time" players begged for their items/credits. Seriously, it makes me roll my eyes how many of the newer guys here beg for free stuff/credits. There were no "free shops" back then either. There was the occasional raffle, but that's it. What I'm afraid of is this new generation of spoon-feeding and hand-holding will spawn a bunch of players already in their lvl+200s still begging for items/credits.

Sigh, somebody summon hito so he can give his "Normal Endgame back in the day was impossibly hard" story.
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post Mar 22 2013, 07:37
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Mar 21 2013, 20:03) *

Aren't you already a wolfgirl anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Yes, and Damn right I am.
Catgirl, yeah right I run them pussy up a tree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Mar 21 2013, 20:40) *

People these days want to be high-level and strong without putting any time or effort in a game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes, 300 is easy nowadays. You want to go back to the time when it would take 2 years of the grinding you do now just to get to level 200?

And no, you don't need any help from anybody. Nobody among the "long-time" players begged for their items/credits. Seriously, it makes me roll my eyes how many of the newer guys here beg for free stuff/credits. There were no "free shops" back then either. There was the occasional raffle, but that's it. What I'm afraid of is this new generation of spoon-feeding and hand-holding will spawn a bunch of players already in their lvl+200s still begging for items/credits.

Sigh, somebody summon hito so he can give his "Normal Endgame back in the day was impossibly hard" story.
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Some not all, I know a few people who hit around level 250, and said fuck it they are happy.
What's so big about 300 if they done made it to 250?
50 more level's Holy shit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Now, yes about that, I have seen new guys on here beg for tons of things.
Hell I never done it when I was new here.
Now how I see it is , if you beg, it's a NO, if you ask nicely for a little help, you are more likely to get it.
I had a old old account that was a friends A long time ago that I played on.
Yes the gear was REALLY shit back than, the monsters would rape you,get done than turn around and rape you again.
Leveling up was not easy, but it was not like you make it sound.
You make it sound like you have to sell your soul to level up high.
I mean it's not like people on here do that now in days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well that might be with the "NEW" generation, I came along in the gap of it.
I have played the old old one, and it was a bitch.
Than I played it when it was starting to get a little better.
about a year after that, I jumped in, than it stayed that way for some time, Till Tenboro gone updated happy.
Making it the "NEW" generation.
Now back than, yes it was "VARY RARE" that someone would have a free shop, same as it was "VARY RARE"
Just to see a raffle.
My account might say I join last year, but I been around here for a few years now.
So I do know how some of the things was (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'm not gonna lie, YES the New generation has it more easy than the old.
But it's a game, like with most games the older they get, the easier they ten to get.
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post Mar 22 2013, 08:36
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Leveling back when I started was a bitch.

We looked at the likes of Hito and Tenseigamoon like gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Tbh the game isn't really tough these days. "Good enough" gears are plenty and cheap. As for awesome gear, it's always been extremely expensive. Just think of Hito's staff. It'd probably cost something like 80-100 million credits now, considering how hath prices have risen.

On the other hand it's quite a bit easier to get credits now compared to before.
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post Mar 22 2013, 09:12
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There is huge gulf between players, yes.

There are hugely overinflated prices for relatively poor equipment in shop/auctions, yes.

There is less and less credits opportunities for newbies with each patch, yes.

Believe me, I know the pain in particular when not playing much.

Still it was MUCH, MUCH harder 3 years back when I started playing. Just paying Credits to enter Arena and losing all of invested Cr when defeated. When I think of a dread I experienced losing few scavenged credits I had, brrrr.... Mostly played GF then, because Arenas with little of no credits were too perilous.

Of course at some stage donating was an option and I took it. Definitively it smoothed the passing between ~200-300.

So,to sum up. Patience is your friend. Train Adept learner and Scavenger only (more drops, even if shit drops it still is worth something). Good luck on your journey. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 22 2013, 09:35
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It took from October 2010 to 25 July 2011 for me to hit level 100, and now you have people hitting level 200 or 300 in just a matter of weeks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It's not like I seldom played either; I did all of my arenas every day and spent extra time in IW and Grindfest. I think I was slow by old standards too...but I didn't really help myself by being a melee until around level 70.

There was a wealth gap between players back then too. There is always going to be a wealth gap in online games. That's just how things are. Your only options are to be patient, play more (or pay), and improve yourself by investing your time and credits wisely.
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post Mar 22 2013, 11:54
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Out of this topic , how high hito godly staff price if he decide to sell it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

He buy it 20M when hath still 4~5k Cr (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

With that forge upgrade , I think that staff cost can hit 40-50M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post Mar 22 2013, 13:13
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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Mar 21 2013, 14:01) *

How did you do that ? using magick power ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Or IWBTH exp was very good that you kill 10 mobs and reach level 200 instantly

With all the hath perks on ( +Black Aura, Rainbow, White, Catgirl camarrila auras, etc etc ) ?

You can do it now. Without Perks. Just 3 mobs and you will level up.

Back in my days you have to kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and your EXP barely increased.
Now you get Plenty of EXP thanks to IWBTH and Monster PL Exp Boost. Also Crazy Dawn Exp.
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post Mar 22 2013, 16:14
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 22 2013, 07:36) *

Leveling back when I started was a bitch.

We looked at the likes of Hito and Tenseigamoon like gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Agreed.
The leveling up is now way faster than it used to be.
I don't remember when I started playing, only thing I know is I stopped twice ; one of these time being because I was sick of getting OHKO by Apathetic Canuck's special.

When I started playing again back 3 or 4 months ago, I was amazed how easier and faster the game had got. Plus now the wiki can give you pretty much all the info you want, I don't remember it having this much info.
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post Mar 22 2013, 16:17
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No pain no gain. No grind no credits/crystals/equips.
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post Mar 22 2013, 17:05
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you're wasting your time.
you're wasting your money.
you're getting nothing.
this is MMO.
"Keep Calm and Grind On".

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post Mar 22 2013, 18:00
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i dont understand how you get that less exquisite items? i get around 10 a day (well 99% are useless) maybe you just need to increase the dificulty
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post Mar 22 2013, 22:22
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 20 2013, 09:30) *
… the individuals that have thus far, gotten to that level and are receiving good drops (or at least more then a few exquisites a year,) have the ability to sell them for enough credits …

No, we don't. It doesn't matter how many Exquisites, Magnificents, and Legendaries you get per year—if it has the wrong suffix and/or low rolls in the important stats, it's junk.

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I've noticed, that as a poor player …

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Scavenger: 28/50 (171K)
Luck of the Draw: 12/25 (214K)
Quartermaster: 10/20 (301K)
Archaeologist: 4/10 (142K)

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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Mar 21 2013, 06:35) *
Your credits that you spend in training can be used to buy much better gears …

Yup.

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post Mar 23 2013, 00:03
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Mar 21 2013, 06:16) *

Be patient , you can gain more than 100k Cr a day when you reach 200 above (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
the quickest way to become rich is catgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Can you go into a little more detail?

my daily routine:
Trio and Tree
First blood through Blazing Field

(I've already played them today, so I do not have a total)

if I assume sapling is worth 4k.
i average around 1-2k worth of crude-fine crap...

so I earn around 15k?? daily if I get the time to play...

I get 1-2 exq. a week... 1 mag in career....

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post Mar 23 2013, 00:27
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Mar 23 2013, 00:03) *

Can you go into a little more detail?

my daily routine:
Trio and Tree
First blood through Blazing Field

(I've already played them today, so I do not have a total)

if I assume sapling is worth 4k.
i average around 1-2k worth of crude-fine crap...

so I earn around 15k?? daily if I get the time to play...

I get 1-2 exq. a week... 1 mag in career....

Just magenuke every Arena. It is fast.
Doing Arena 1 up to T&T should give you at least 100 k even if your Trainings are shit.

Or use h@h. It will also help very tiny bit.

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post Mar 23 2013, 02:09
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Trio and Tree and on IWBTH alone should get you atleast 20k. That is without selling the drops you get.
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post Mar 23 2013, 02:19
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we Chinese have an old saying:"There is rotten luxurious food in rich family meanwhile there is someone who‘s freeze to death on the road". I guess that describes this well.
However, that is the real world man. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 23 2013, 02:29
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credits for the poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 23 2013, 02:44
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Mar 23 2013, 11:29) *

credits for the poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

oh please, give me some...I'm very poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 23 2013, 03:46
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Most of us were poor once.

We got over it :3

So can you, if you know what you're doing :3
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