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post Mar 12 2013, 23:45
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 12 2013, 10:48) *

i salvaged a shade breastplate that i used to increase forge exp


Please don't tell me it was the legendary fleet breastplate. If it was then you just salvaged a better breastplate than I'll ever have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Mar 12 2013, 23:57
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 13 2013, 00:45) *

Please don't tell me it was the legendary fleet breastplate. If it was then you just salvaged a better breastplate than I'll ever have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Well if you don't want me to tell it ...
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post Mar 13 2013, 00:22
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Whining power:
[Superior Plate Helmet of Protection]
[Superior Dagger of Swiftness]
[Exquisite Katana of Slaughter]
[Superior Oak Staff of the Earth-walker]
[Superior Kite Shield of Protection]

and a couple of artifacts for today -> crystals. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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post Mar 13 2013, 01:13
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 12 2013, 22:57) *

Well if you don't want me to tell it ...


WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
LEGENDARY for forge EXP?!
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post Mar 13 2013, 01:18
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QUOTE(penuser0 @ Mar 13 2013, 01:13) *

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
LEGENDARY for forge EXP?!

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post Mar 13 2013, 01:34
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 12 2013, 21:43) *

It's a secret.
Ages ago. It was the "odds of getting a Legendary is no longer mathematically insignificant" patch.
Nah, it's good.
You'll get the title of Honorary Codebreaker. Informally, of course.
Well, a Mysterious Box or Tenbora's Box would do it.
How about Pie and Muffins?

And exponentials with variable base. Just to make linear regression a pain in the ass.


Do the boxes still give +5000? Old patch notes and noodles 2500?

Well damn, not going to at least give us a third point or something we can at least test against? Like "Noodle gives a bonus of 0.33"

Variable base meaning?

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post Mar 13 2013, 02:03
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Well Noodle is +2000 LQB and Mysterious Box is +5000... You can guess based on that for quality multiplier.
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post Mar 13 2013, 02:16
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In 0.73 Liselotte used to get about 7% more wins than Eila because more players could encounter her. However, Eila would get about 22% more kills than Liselotte because she was more powerful. In 0.74 Tenboro rendered Agility mostly worthless, which was very damaging to high Agility monsters.

Previously Eila was differentiated from Liselotte by her higher speed but, now that all monsters have the same speed, that differentiation is gone and Eila is no more powerful than Liselotte. As a result Eila is not only getting fewer wins, but also fewer kills:

Eila (PL 1455) last 15 days
Battles Won: +888
Killing Blow: +132

Liselotte (PL 1105) last 15 days
Battles Won: +957
Killing Blows: +149

There's no point repeating what I said here and here and here.

The only thing I'd add is that having six types of attribute crystals now seems pointless. You've said yourself that the only purpose for crystal upgrades is to unlock Chaos upgrades so what's the in having six types to do one thing? Why not have only a single type of crystal that is used to unlock chaos upgrades? And why have these really expensive crystal upgrades beyond level 1000 if they don't do anything?

The whole Monster Lab is a design disaster. We've got total imbalance between monster classes. We've got monsters that cost tens of millions of crystals being no more powerful than monsters costing one million. We've got upgrades that do nothing at all. We've got high level monsters getting fewer wins/kills than low level monsters. We've got high level monsters bringing back less material than low level monsters. We've got high level monsters bringing back nothing but useless bindings while level 750 monsters bring back a lot of useful stuff. I don't think you could create more of a fuck up even if you tried. It's like the Winchester mansion of game design.
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post Mar 13 2013, 02:24
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 13 2013, 05:57) *

Well if you don't want me to tell it ...


Well, why do you salvage it?
It's certainly useless, but leather is useless too...
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post Mar 13 2013, 03:44
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QUOTE(TheTornPrince @ Mar 13 2013, 01:16) *

Eila (PL 1455) last 15 days
Battles Won: +888
Killing Blow: +132

Liselotte (PL 1105) last 15 days
Battles Won: +957
Killing Blows: +149


I guess someone must hold a grudge against you, those are lots of killing blows! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's interesting how people hate patches but they ask for moaaar! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Mar 13 2013, 04:49
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Mar 13 2013, 00:03) *

Well Noodle is +2000 LQB and Mysterious Box is +5000... You can guess based on that for quality multiplier.


Noodly Appendage A nutritious pasta-based appendage from the Flying Spaghetti Monster. +2500 x5

might want to change that on wiki then, since it is what was put there who knows how long ago, and I swore it was 2500 for the noodle

-- The highest tier of normally obtainable trophies (like the Platinum Ticket and Noodly Appendage) have a ~2-4% chance of yielding magnificent or higher. (The odds vary somewhat depending on the number of stats the equipment piece has.) https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1288400

Platinum Ticket (Trophy, +2500 loot quality) https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=849748

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post Mar 13 2013, 05:27
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Mistype on my part, I meant 2500.

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post Mar 13 2013, 05:29
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 12 2013, 16:44) *

Yes.

Max would be 1, basically the bestest of the bestest.

Though so far I've seen some stuff dropping with >1 quality, so MAYBE it raises the max as well. Not 100% sure.

Only "above baseline" (dex/agi on cloth and heavy, everything other than str/agi/dex on light) PABs determine whether something goes above quality 1.
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:41
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How does one acquire Platinum Ticket?
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:45
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:46
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 12 2013, 19:41) *

How does one acquire Platinum Ticket?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Toplist#Monthly_Awards
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:47
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QUOTE(TheTornPrince @ Mar 13 2013, 02:16) *

In 0.73 Liselotte used to get about 7% more wins than Eila because more players could encounter her. However, Eila would get about 22% more kills than Liselotte because she was more powerful. In 0.74 Tenboro rendered Agility mostly worthless, which was very damaging to high Agility monsters.

Previously Eila was differentiated from Liselotte by her higher speed but, now that all monsters have the same speed, that differentiation is gone and Eila is no more powerful than Liselotte. As a result Eila is not only getting fewer wins, but also fewer kills:

Eila (PL 1455) last 15 days
Battles Won: +888
Killing Blow: +132

Liselotte (PL 1105) last 15 days
Battles Won: +957
Killing Blows: +149

There's no point repeating what I said here and here and here.

The only thing I'd add is that having six types of attribute crystals now seems pointless. You've said yourself that the only purpose for crystal upgrades is to unlock Chaos upgrades so what's the in having six types to do one thing? Why not have only a single type of crystal that is used to unlock chaos upgrades? And why have these really expensive crystal upgrades beyond level 1000 if they don't do anything?

The whole Monster Lab is a design disaster. We've got total imbalance between monster classes. We've got monsters that cost tens of millions of crystals being no more powerful than monsters costing one million. We've got upgrades that do nothing at all. We've got high level monsters getting fewer wins/kills than low level monsters. We've got high level monsters bringing back less material than low level monsters. We've got high level monsters bringing back nothing but useless bindings while level 750 monsters bring back a lot of useful stuff. I don't think you could create more of a fuck up even if you tried. It's like the Winchester mansion of game design.

Face it, Lisi is just more awesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 13 2013, 06:12
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QUOTE(HTTP/308 @ Mar 12 2013, 16:24) *

Well, why do you salvage it?
It's certainly useless, but leather is useless too...


Ugh, I wish I was awesome enough to call a Legendary Fleet Breastplate with near-max forged evade and PMI useless (or did you just mean useless to danixxx?). Also leather can be sold to people like me who refuse to give up light armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . I take it the leather and the bindings/frags was worth more than the breastplate itself? I was wondering how danixxx had 600 HG leathers in his shop.
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post Mar 13 2013, 06:24
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Tenboro: Does Tenbora's box/Mysterious Box also have higher tier modifier than x5 or is it same?
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post Mar 13 2013, 06:27
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