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Mar 12 2013, 04:59
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Pickled_Cow
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Mar 12 2013, 02:09)  Luck of the Draw doesn't help with equipment lol.
WAIT, WHAT?This post has been edited by Anomtai: Mar 12 2013, 04:59
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Mar 12 2013, 05:45
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skillchip
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It does, but I dont feel like pulling up the conversation.
All it does is bring up the floor for equipment, and the floor is really hard to raise far enough to get out of the crude range, no matter what you do.
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Mar 12 2013, 07:19
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Anomtai @ Mar 11 2013, 18:59)  WAIT, WHAT?
Protip: If it's not in the wiki it's not true.
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Mar 12 2013, 07:26
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varst
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Mar 12 2013, 13:19)  Protip: If it's not in the wiki it's not true.
Well...TBH, things in wiki can also be outdated or untested. QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 12 2013, 11:45)  All it does is bring up the floor for equipment, and the floor is really hard to raise far enough to get out of the crude range, no matter what you do.
Found something interesting? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by varst: Mar 12 2013, 07:27
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Mar 12 2013, 07:31
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 11 2013, 21:26)  Well...TBH, things posted by other users can also be outdated or untested.
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Mar 12 2013, 07:54
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 12 2013, 12:26)  Well...TBH, things in wiki can also be outdated or untested. Found something interesting? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tenboro said this a while back. Basically LotD tightens the roll range, IIRC. So statistically you should get a higher average quality with higher LotD. But that'll take like many lifetimes to verify (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 12 2013, 08:22
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pureyang
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 3 2013, 07:28)  - Accounts will now enter a 24 hour security lockdown under certain conditions. This disables access to MoogleMail, the Equipment and Item Shop, the Shrine, the Hath Exchange, and the credit transfer function. It also disables the Salvage and Reforge options in the Forge. Have people been having their accounts stolen and then drained of funds? QUOTE - The RiddleMaster now uses a more reliable way to store its internal state.
Can someone explain to me what this means?
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Mar 12 2013, 08:24
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pureyang
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 11 2013, 23:54)  Tenboro said this a while back. Basically LotD tightens the roll range, IIRC.
Tighten would normally suggest increasing min and decreasing max. Does it not only increase min without altering max?
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Mar 12 2013, 08:48
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Lement
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@mrttao: Reversing skillchip's account hijack was a lot of trouble even with backups.
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Mar 12 2013, 08:54
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varst
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 12 2013, 13:26)  Well...TBH, everything (including when tenb said) can also be outdated or untested.
QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 12 2013, 13:54)  Tenboro said this a while back. Basically LotD tightens the roll range, IIRC.
So statistically you should get a higher average quality with higher LotD.
Read that one. What interest me is the 'really hard to raise far enough to get out of the crude range' part, though I do see some of the stats (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by varst: Mar 12 2013, 08:57
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Mar 12 2013, 09:26
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varst
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Mar 12 2013, 15:10)  Unless this page is total bullshit, i'm right. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_RollsThis page was last modified on 21 January 2013, at 17:27. Indeed there's something wrong. There's the individual stats roll somewhere after the equip roll and before the PAB roll (which is affected by LotD), But it's difficult to tell if the flow on equip's entirely correct anyway.
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Mar 12 2013, 12:56
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eqwer
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@ #265
well, i think the gallery viewer software entry has a problem: IrfanView and picasa are nearly not at same level compare to mangameeya, they are too weak/unsuitable when you put their names equally, this entry is somewhat confuse and mislead the people who have no manga viewer software usage exp
This post has been edited by eqwer: Mar 12 2013, 12:59
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Mar 12 2013, 13:01
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T_Starrk
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I don't have any official numbers, but I've definitely been getting more mag and leg drops since I raised my LotD several levels. Also with how much it costs to get LotD 25, I really hope it does something, lol (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Mar 12 2013, 13:04
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Mar 12 2013, 13:04
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Lement
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Regarding quality and recent patches: Can we please know the effect of prefix on overall armor quality?
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Mar 12 2013, 13:06
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varst
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 12 2013, 19:01)  I don't have any official numbers, but I've definitely been getting more mag and leg drops since I raised my LotD several levels. Also with how much it costs to get LotD 25, I really hope it does something, lol (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . From 24 to 25? 9,999,999. You can calculate other level's costs with some data. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Training#Costs
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Mar 12 2013, 14:23
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Arxdewn
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 12 2013, 04:04)  Regarding quality and recent patches: Can we please know the effect of prefix on overall armor quality?
None, prefix is determined after all other rolls including quality are determined.
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Mar 12 2013, 14:34
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pureyang
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 12 2013, 05:01)  I don't have any official numbers, but I've definitely been getting more mag and leg drops since I raised my LotD several levels. Also with how much it costs to get LotD 25, I really hope it does something, lol (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Well, the most sensible way for it to work is a multiplier to the roll or dice count with an optional ceiling on the roll to retain the same max value. This way it will show an increase in quality on every single dropped item but no item with higher then max rolls. An alternative way would be for it just be a floor, that way it has no effect on any item except those so crappy that they fall below that floor, such merch trash would be raised to the new floor and be slightly more valuable merch trash, but still too trashy to ever be worth the investment. If this is how it works then it is a huge trap. This post has been edited by mrttao: Mar 12 2013, 14:36
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Mar 12 2013, 14:39
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Arith Undine
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QUOTE(mrttao @ Mar 12 2013, 13:34)  Well, the most sensible way for it to work is a multiplier to the roll or dice count with an optional ceiling on the roll to retain the same max value. This way it will show an increase in quality on every single dropped item but no item with higher then max rolls.
An alternative way would be for it just be a floor, that way it has no effect on any item except those so crappy that they fall below that floor, such merch trash would be raised to the new floor and be slightly more valuable merch trash, but still too trashy to ever be worth the investment. If this is how it works then it is a huge trap.
And there can be hath perks (in the future) for increasing the quality roll? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Mar 12 2013, 16:44
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(mrttao @ Mar 12 2013, 13:24)  Tighten would normally suggest increasing min and decreasing max. Does it not only increase min without altering max?
Yes. Max would be 1, basically the bestest of the bestest. Though so far I've seen some stuff dropping with >1 quality, so MAYBE it raises the max as well. Not 100% sure.
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