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since all the ability points from artifacts are going to be lost, can the chance of getting them be removed now?
right now i'm not shrining any artifact. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

HA HA HA HA HA HA... as things are going now... is better if you just keep collecting them.... after reading all the pwnage that is going to happen... have 72 (DONT THINK I DIDNT WISH TO CHANGE THEM.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

I'd still like to know how mages are going to actually hit things with melee attacks.

Staffs are a useless melee weapon. No additional statuses to strike (like stun), no tier 2 or tier 3 attacks, and the T1 attack just stuns 1 enemy. If you want more melee attacks from mages, then staffs need some extra attack. Or be able to use a wakizashi on the off-hand.

Or it could go Diablo 2 style and use [diablo2.diablowiki.net] Enchant style spells for mages.

Or it could go Diablo 2 style and use [diablo2.diablowiki.net] Enchant style spells for mages.

I tried that with a sorc a few times, while I didn't have all the duped runeword gear my gear was still pretty good, and it still sucked..... Though it was still reasonably fun, just it was your merc that was doing most of the killing

I tried that with a sorc a few times, while I didn't have all the duped runeword gear my gear was still pretty good, and it still sucked..... Though it was still reasonably fun, just it was your merc that was doing most of the killing

It worked much better back in Classic, and Xpac pre 1.10.

*WHINNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE*

The thread need daily fire up... so here it is.

enchant sorc was a fun build, but the best use of the skill was to level up new characters in classic d2.
enchant with raven claw bow was a riot since the fire damage was also added to the explosion and explosive arrows had 100% hit chance.


Raven Claw
Long Bow

Two-Hand Damage: (4-5) To (16-17) (10-11 Avg)
Required Level: 15
Required Strength: 22
Required Dexterity: 19
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
+60-70% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Fires Explosive Arrows [Level 3]
50% Bonus to Attack Rating
+3 To Dexterity
+3 To Strength
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

enchant sorc was a fun build, but the best use of the skill was to level up new characters in classic d2.
enchant with raven claw bow was a riot since the fire damage was also added to the explosion and explosive arrows had 100% hit chance.

I had a enchant sorc with a harmony bow for tomb running, didnt use it for that much though.
Enchant sorcs were great for ladder resets though, if I managed to get a full Iraths set I could easily tele to hell throne. Being up in the top 20 ladder list was fun, until I decided I needed sleep.

I just had a idea: Magic proficiencies should be part of the formula for counter-resist. Currently, I get resisted by some Http monster for several turns straight, then it kicks me in the balls, protected only by cloth, and I die. I hate resist.

I had a enchant sorc with a harmony bow for tomb running, didnt use it for that much though.
Enchant sorcs were great for ladder resets though, if I managed to get a full Iraths set I could easily tele to hell throne. Being up in the top 20 ladder list was fun, until I decided I needed sleep.

i was talking about classic enchantress, not lod.
in the expansion there was no way to make it actually good for pvm (fire was the worst element in pvm) and as a sorceress you had no skills to apply the damage fast enough to monsters.
bows with explosive arrows: the increased damage from fire mastery only applied once for ranged attacks (the character screen is a lie) and the damage of a crap FB sorc is just much higher than the damage of a good enchantress.
melee weapon: you have no better option than normal attack. the max attack speed of a sorceress is the worst in the game. even getting zeal from the runeword passion didn't do any good.
getting a horde of minions from charges: charges cost a lot to repair and giving up on both orb and shield in order to use harmony makes you lose too much.
if you had a fire sorc a point into enchant was good to buff your merc and allies, mostly for the attack rating.
unless one of the allies was a summoner, then having a maxed enchant would have made a huge difference (but summoners made games laggy and all hated them).

i think that in lod enchant saw more use from barbarians using demon limb charges for the ar bonus then from actual sorcs.

i saw troll enchant pvp builds sometimes though.

This post has been edited by Malenk: May 16 2013, 11:57

i was talking about classic enchantress, not lod.
in the expansion there was no way to make it actually good for pvm (fire was the worst element in pvm) and as a sorceress you had no skills to apply the damage fast enough to monsters.
bows with explosive arrows: the increased damage from fire mastery only applied once for ranged attacks (the character screen is a lie) and the damage of a crap FB sorc is just much higher than the damage of a good enchantress.
melee weapon: you have no better option than normal attack. the max attack speed of a sorceress is the worst in the game. even getting zeal from the runeword passion didn't do any good.
getting a horde of minions from charges: charges cost a lot to repair and giving up on both orb and shield in order to use harmony makes you lose too much.
if you had a fire sorc a point into enchant was good to buff your merc and allies, mostly for the attack rating.
unless one of the allies was a summoner, then having a maxed enchant would have made a huge difference (but summoners made games laggy and all hated them).

i think that in lod enchant saw more use from barbarians using demon limb charges for the ar bonus then from actual sorcs.

i saw troll enchant pvp builds sometimes though.

I loved my summon mancer, until blizzard decided to boot you for casting different spells too fast. Spamming amp ce and constantly re raising summons in hell was instant boot for me. Gave up after that. But yea it was your merc which did the dmg with a melee sorc, I managed to make a kingslayer wep once, dont remember how it stacked up with passion though. Dont think she was high enough lvl to take advantage of masteries.

I loved my summon mancer, until blizzard decided to boot you for casting different spells too fast. Spamming amp ce and constantly re raising summons in hell was instant boot for me. Gave up after that. But yea it was your merc which did the dmg with a melee sorc, I managed to make a kingslayer wep once, dont remember how it stacked up with passion though. Dont think she was high enough lvl to take advantage of masteries.

kingslayer was bad.
ok, it makes you deal multi elemental damage with vengeance that you can boost with masteries. but doesn't change the fact that you don't aoe damage or enough attack speed to clear monsters with a decent speed.
you can't even oneshot most things like a fury barbarian can.

passion isn't any good either, i just mentioned it because it gave zeal to non paladins, but each class had its own attack speed table and even with the weapon with the best base attack speed (phase blade) your max attack speed with zeal was 3.28 attacks per second (this is nothing much if you think that paladins can reach 5.2 attacks per second with zeal). where with normal attack you could deal 2.5 attacks per second with less effort on your part because you needed less IAS to reach this point and you could use a better weapon (passion sucks).
now that i remember there was one way to make eanchant sorc pvm viable:
use beast runeword to turn into a werebear then switch to a phaseblade with 95ias (must be on the weapon, ias from other items doesn't do anything after a certain point for werebear attack speed) to deal 5 attacks per second. or a 95 ias demon crossbow, a 120 ias thresher or champion axe for 6.25 attacks per second.

I just had a idea: Magic proficiencies should be part of the formula for counter-resist. Currently, I get resisted by some Http monster for several turns straight, then it kicks me in the balls, protected only by cloth, and I die. I hate resist.

already in the works

already in the works

Shhh..... I'm bidding on stuff...... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

already in the works

More specifically, having double the monster's level in proficiency grants 50% counter-resist (IIRC).

What about parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

What about parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

yeah , we melee also hate parry like mages hate resist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

But the One-Handed proc already gives you up to 100% counter-parry. :3

One-Handed

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All this talk about d2 makes me nestolgic to go and re-conquer the Melee pvp and hammerdin ladders.



can we haz Whirl Wind and Fury in HV plz?

or just make 1-handed/shield a viable build so I can make a max block super pmi, ultra high damage hverse build?

This post has been edited by Nightwishman: May 16 2013, 17:23