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Oct 11 2023, 20:02
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Necromusume
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Cryptocurrency was always supposed to be anonymous and untraceable. One of the original applications that the early cypherpunks had in mind was micropayments to relay nodes in an anonymous remailing network. Obviously this requires the currency to not be an identity leak itself.
After Satoshi disappeared, the people maintaining Bitcoin sold out. They never added privacy features, which left Bitcoin completely traceable, especially once governments started trying to force all legal on-ramps and off-ramps to be KYC. The Bitcoin which exists today was never meant to be more than a prototype.
Governments can shut down your Bitcoin account and freeze your money, ban it from receiving money, and ban it from sending money. They do this every time there is a high profile hack or scam. Because Bitcoin is not fungible, the ledger is transparent, and the transactions are traceable, they can blacklist any address they want. Centralized exchanges won't take that tainted bitcoin, and will freeze the accounts of anyone trying to deposit it. They can likewise punish anyone sending coins to that address or interacting with it, such as by participating in a CoinJoin with it, by blacklisting their addresses and coins as well.
The only true cryptocurrencies out of the thousands in existence are the privacy coins. The governments don't want you to know that they even exist, and try to avoid mentioning them by name. Out of those, there is only one that is widely used and battle tested: Monero. Its user base and developers tend to be cypherpunks and libertarians who simply will not comply with traceability requirements. It's what crypto was supposed to be, before degens who just wanted gainz at any price sold it out.
You can buy it peer to peer with no KYC, even in New York. The most common place to do this currently is on LocalMonero. Some sellers will say "No New York", but many do not.
This post has been edited by Necromusume: Oct 11 2023, 20:08
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Oct 11 2023, 20:29
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 11 2023, 20:02) After Satoshi disappeared, the people maintaining Bitcoin sold out. They never added privacy features, which left Bitcoin completely traceable, especially once governments started trying to force all legal on-ramps and off-ramps to be KYC. The Bitcoin which exists today was never meant to be more than a prototype. It's not really possible to make Bitcoin into a privacy coin retroactively, though Lightning (which builds on top of Bitcoin) does to a large extent try to be difficult to trace. How successful that is in practice is an open question however. QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 11 2023, 20:02) Governments can shut down your Bitcoin account and freeze your money, ban it from receiving money, and ban it from sending money. They do this every time there is a high profile hack or scam. Because Bitcoin is not fungible, the ledger is transparent, and the transactions are traceable, they can blacklist any address they want. Centralized exchanges won't take that tainted bitcoin, and will freeze the accounts of anyone trying to deposit it. They can likewise punish anyone sending coins to that address or interacting with it, such as by participating in a CoinJoin with it, by blacklisting their addresses and coins as well. This is only relevant if you are trying to off-ramp coins from famous hacks at an exchange or a KYC merchant. If you were to use "tainted" coins to just pay for stuff or say fund a Lightning channel, no one can do jack shit except possibly jail you if the transactions were linked to some actual illegal activity. But I'm not talking about sending/accepting money for illegal shit, I'm talking about sending/accepting money for something that's not illegal but is on the several pages of "prohibited activity" you'll find in every payment provider's TOS/AUP. And unlike normal "accounts" you can have an infinite number of bitcoin addresses, and if you practice good coin control it's impossible to link them together. QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 11 2023, 20:02) The only true cryptocurrencies out of the thousands in existence are the privacy coins. The governments don't want you to know that they even exist, and try to avoid mentioning them by name. Out of those, there is only one that is widely used and battle tested: Monero. Its user base and developers tend to be cypherpunks and libertarians who simply will not comply with traceability requirements. It's what crypto was supposed to be, before degens who just wanted gainz at any price sold it out.
Monero is pretty cool, and we do accept it, just not automatically. Though there are various drawbacks with privacy coins, and the fact that they are subject to so much additional scrutiny due to their nature means it's kinda hard to get rid of them unless you like buying illegal stuff on the dark web.
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Oct 12 2023, 00:52
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Necromusume
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Interesting. It sounds like it is pretty private for your use case, since you are getting BTC/BCH from users without KYCing yourself, and then passing it through to non-KYC merchants. I had wondered whether you were converting it to fiat via a CEX, and whether all the E-H bitcoin ever got aggregated together; it sounds like it does not.
So for users who are sending directly off an exchange to an E-H address, it looks like they are buying web hosting or server parts with a couple of hops in the middle. Without the cooperatiion of the merchant it couldn't be identified as an E-Hentai donation.
Part of the motivation for privacy coins is that the individual users don't have to have as much knowledge of how to perform coin control (ie, they are actually delivering the ease of use and simplicity that users want), they have a safety net in case you ever mess up, and you don't have to rely on the downstream parties to transact carefully themselves.
I do wonder what would happen if someone ever donated really hot Bitcoin to E-Hentai. Since we don't have a completely circular economy, it is going to hit a Chainalysis-using CEX eventually, and then we get to see how many hops up the chain the pain extends.
Exchange: "This Bitcoin was stolen by the Lazarus Group of North Korea, where did you get it? Freezing your account." Web host: "Well, we got it from a customer. We take Bitcoin without KYC, and we don't know who they are." Web host to customer: "This Bitcoin was stolen by the Lazarus Group of North Korea, where did you get it? Freezing your account."
versus the problem of all privacy coins being treated as somewhat tainted by default.
I can say on my end that I haven't had trouble getting rid of any XMR. It is so far still easy to swap it to BCH or other coins as needed. A lot of the potential pain for either hasn't materialized yet.
This post has been edited by Necromusume: Oct 12 2023, 00:54
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Oct 12 2023, 09:49
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 12 2023, 00:52) I do wonder what would happen if someone ever donated really hot Bitcoin to E-Hentai. Since we don't have a completely circular economy, it is going to hit a Chainalysis-using CEX eventually, and then we get to see how many hops up the chain the pain extends. As far as I know, most of those chain analysis tools aren't as simple as "this transaction has a tainted ancestor", they use various heuristics and thresholds based on degrees of separatation (time + number of transactions) as well as mixing with other coins. So if someone has some "tainted" coins that end up being combined with other coins and then used to make a payment some time later without (seemingly) trying to obfuscate them, that's a very strong indicator that whoever made that transaction is not aware that the coins were "tainted" and therefore wasn't involved with whatever originally "tainted" them. On the other hand if you have some "tainted" coins that passed through a coinjoin right before they were spent, those tools will flag a strong indicator that whoever made that transaction is involved with something shady. (Which is probably a reasonable conclusion, to be fair.) QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 12 2023, 00:52) Exchange: "This Bitcoin was stolen by the Lazarus Group of North Korea, where did you get it? Freezing your account." Web host: "Well, we got it from a customer. We take Bitcoin without KYC, and we don't know who they are." Web host to customer: "This Bitcoin was stolen by the Lazarus Group of North Korea, where did you get it? Freezing your account." Customer: "Well, I got it from *my* customer. I take Bitcoin without KYC, and I don't know who they are." (Not that it ever came up.) QUOTE(Necromusume @ Oct 12 2023, 00:52) I can say on my end that I haven't had trouble getting rid of any XMR. It is so far still easy to swap it to BCH or other coins as needed. A lot of the potential pain for either hasn't materialized yet.
The thing is that if you swap privacy coins to non-privacy coins, you're basically guaranteed to get "tainted" coins in return, since many/most people who want to swap the other way are doing it for money laundering purposes..
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Oct 31 2023, 17:38
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Zhuo_Xing
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I don't know if this is asked before,but here goes: Do I have to use (Android)apps like Bitcoin Cash Register (BCH) in order to make monetary donation?I would like to donate using my Mastercard if possible...Please let me know the steps needed if I have to use the app,as I tends to be paranoid when it comes to money,and I sincerely wants to donate to this site...After all,I always come to e-hentai for my 18+ pleasure without any worry of any malware,so I am grateful for this site.Thanks.
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Oct 31 2023, 21:17
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Scumbini
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QUOTE(Zhuo_Xing @ Oct 31 2023, 17:38) I don't know if this is asked before,but here goes: Do I have to use (Android)apps like Bitcoin Cash Register (BCH) in order to make monetary donation?I would like to donate using my Mastercard if possible...Please let me know the steps needed if I have to use the app,as I tends to be paranoid when it comes to money,and I sincerely wants to donate to this site...After all,I always come to e-hentai for my 18+ pleasure without any worry of any malware,so I am grateful for this site.Thanks. It's not possible to donate with any method other than cryptocurrency. Blame the payment processors and credit card companies for this. Bitcoin Cash Register isn't a wallet, it's used to allow the user to accept BCH payments. You'd first need a wallet. The [ wallet.bitcoin.com] Bitcoin.com wallet on Android or iOS allows you to make both a BTC and BCH wallet. Personally I recommend you go with BCH, as the transaction fees will be significantly lower. There are other wallets avalible on mobile and desktop, but since you posted an Android screenshot that's what I based the recommendation on. Then, you need to acquire your cryptocurrency of choice. How simple this is depends largely on where you live. You can use [ buybitcoinworldwide.com] https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/ to find an exchange. These guide may also be of use: [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/how-to-...e-bitcoin-cash/ [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/how-to-...d-bitcoin-cash/There are also more general guides available here [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/This post has been edited by Scumbini: Oct 31 2023, 21:19
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Nov 1 2023, 15:27
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Zhuo_Xing
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Nov 1 2023, 03:17) It's not possible to donate with any method other than cryptocurrency. Blame the payment processors and credit card companies for this. Bitcoin Cash Register isn't a wallet, it's used to allow the user to accept BCH payments. You'd first need a wallet. The [ wallet.bitcoin.com] Bitcoin.com wallet on Android or iOS allows you to make both a BTC and BCH wallet. Personally I recommend you go with BCH, as the transaction fees will be significantly lower. There are other wallets avalible on mobile and desktop, but since you posted an Android screenshot that's what I based the recommendation on. Then, you need to acquire your cryptocurrency of choice. How simple this is depends largely on where you live. You can use [ buybitcoinworldwide.com] https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/ to find an exchange. These guide may also be of use: [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/how-to-...e-bitcoin-cash/ [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/how-to-...d-bitcoin-cash/There are also more general guides available here [ www.bitcoin.com] https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/Thanks for the guidance. I had made a total of US$100 donation,and can confirm that I got the Gold Star title,but I don't seems to receive my Gallery Points,even though I got some credits immediately after my donation,until I looked around,and learnt that we will get them from the "Dawn of a New Day" event,which is still present,just that it no longer happens immediately after signing in,like 10+ years ago. For those who had started playing Hentaiverse again after so many years,you will need to go to the News page in order to trigger the "Dawn of a New Day", only then you will get your Credits and Gallery Points,and Hath if you had donated enough.See the screenshot below for reference.This post has been edited by Zhuo_Xing: Nov 3 2023, 15:38
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Nov 29 2023, 17:17
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YourRentIsDue
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Ay can we get a better payment method I really don't want to hand over my passport to some random company I've never heard of just to see a hentai character get creamed in HD, shits cucked
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Nov 29 2023, 17:47
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Cipher-kun
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QUOTE(YourRentIsDue @ Nov 29 2023, 15:17) Ay can we get a better payment method I really don't want to hand over my passport to some random company I've never heard of just to see a hentai character get creamed in HD, shits cucked
I’d suggest finding a better crypto payment provider. I’ve never had to provide any personal details for any of my crypto purchases. Given the. Satire of crypto I’m not going to recommend any place though but they are out there.
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Nov 30 2023, 19:00
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Glovelove.
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QUOTE(Cipher-kun @ Nov 29 2023, 16:47) I’d suggest finding a better crypto payment provider. I’ve never had to provide any personal details for any of my crypto purchases. Given the. Satire of crypto I’m not going to recommend any place though but they are out there.
Depends in part on where people live, I haven't been able to get it sorted myself because EU regulations (and companies that accept payments from European banks tend to follow those) around this are just a fucking mess.
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Jan 20 2024, 21:57
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MrFreeman
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How would I go about getting my BCH dono address refreshed? The ATM asked if it was my wallet or someone else's and permanently blocks you from using that address with the ATM provider if you choose the wrong option... Ended up having to use BTC ... also I need the BTC address changed because the non-legacy BTC QR codes literally caused the ATM to crash.
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Jan 20 2024, 22:01
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nasu
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QUOTE(MrFreeman @ Jan 20 2024, 19:57) How would I go about getting my BCH dono address refreshed? The ATM asked if it was my wallet or someone else's and permanently blocks you from using that address with the ATM provider if you choose the wrong option... Ended up having to use BTC ... also I need the BTC address changed because the non-legacy BTC QR codes literally caused the ATM to crash.
Try sending a PM to Tenboro if you need your BCH address refreshing before a transaction gets to it. As for the legacy BTC address, there is already a link you can click to get a legacy address (under the non-legacy address). This post has been edited by nasu: Jan 20 2024, 22:52
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Jan 20 2024, 22:22
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Necromusume
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If the BCH address is used, the site will generate a new one. Try to find a BCH faucet that will send you some dust.
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Jan 20 2024, 22:50
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(MrFreeman @ Jan 20 2024, 20:57) How would I go about getting my BCH dono address refreshed? The ATM asked if it was my wallet or someone else's and permanently blocks you from using that address with the ATM provider if you choose the wrong option... Ended up having to use BTC ... also I need the BTC address changed because the non-legacy BTC QR codes literally caused the ATM to crash.
If you click where it says "generate a new address" below the QR code, there's a secret link to generate a new address without using it. Note that you can only use this once every 24 hours.
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Jan 21 2024, 01:28
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MrFreeman
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 20 2024, 12:50) If you click where it says "generate a new address" below the QR code, there's a secret link to generate a new address without using it. Note that you can only use this once every 24 hours.
Ah, just found it by accident and now I see this post. Thanks, you guys thought of everything!
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Feb 20 2024, 06:34
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notthisagain
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Am I sh*t out of luck if my platform asks questions about the destination BCH wallet? (e.g. whether its a private address or which exchange is it)
I don't really care if the transaction is traceable to my KYC'ed account, but I'm surprised its such a hassle to just send BCH. :/
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Feb 20 2024, 07:44
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Kagoraphobia
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I personally wouldn't trust anything that does anal probing this hard. You should probably look for something else if possible.
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Feb 20 2024, 08:33
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Tenboro
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QUOTE(notthisagain @ Feb 20 2024, 05:34) Am I sh*t out of luck if my platform asks questions about the destination BCH wallet? (e.g. whether its a private address or which exchange is it)
Just say it's your own private wallet.
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Feb 20 2024, 12:54
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notthisagain
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 20 2024, 14:33) Just say it's your own private wallet.
Thanks, it worked in the end. I think I ran into some bug when I selected private wallet previously. QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Feb 20 2024, 13:44) I personally wouldn't trust anything that does anal probing this hard. You should probably look for something else if possible.
Limited options here really, plus I don't use a VPN so any semblance of privacy is already out of the window (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 25 2024, 14:34
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howard0x0
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I'm using a virtual currency wallet for the first time, but my Bitcoin Cash donation address is showing as invalid. Even after updating the QR code, it remains the same. What should I do to resolve this?
I can use the Bitcoin address, but the transaction fees are too high, so I'm not considering using Bitcoin for donations.
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