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Whatever it is, please make it have a reason to keep it at least 3/4 as high as your level by way of necessity and token cheapy bonuses like HP for STR.

I posted this a long time ago, this was something that should have been done to differentiate the monster classes. Unfortunately, with the AGI change, things have taken a step backwards instead of forward.

Revamp how the Chaos Upgrades work. Different monster classes shouldn't have the same bonuses from upgrades. For example, the slower classes (Giants, Undead, Mechs, Dragonkins) should get less than 0.5% Evade per upgrade. On the other hand, faster types (Avion, Sprites) should get more Evade per upgrade, something like 0.75% or even 1%. It's pretty easy to make logical adjustments based on monster stats.

Some ideas on this:

1) Resist
Buff: High Wis monsters (Celestials, Elementals) should get higher Resist.
Nerf: Low Wis monsters (Giant, Undead, Beast) should get less Resist from the upgrades.

2) Evade
Buff: Avion, Sprites
Nerf: Giant, Undead, Mech, Dragonkin

3) Health
Buff: Giant, Anthropod, Undead
Nerf: Avion, Daimon, Sprite

4) Anti-Evade/Parry (I'm linking this upgrade to DEX, could be STR)
Buff: Humanoid, Reptilian, Daimon, Beast
Nerf: Dragonkin, Celestial

5) Anti-Resist/Block (Anti-Resist should probably link to INT, not sure about Block)
Buff: Celestial, Humanoid
Nerf: Giant, Undead, Beast

6) Damage
Buff: Undead, Mechanoid, Giant, Dragonkin
Nerf: Sprite, Elemental, Celestial

You got it wrong.
I just love monsters more than my character (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I would be glad to screw myself by 25% by making monsters 25% stronger (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Tenb should just do the Idea in the Catgirl Suggestion thread. You would have your stronger monsters then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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For Chaos Upgraded I would always have preferred some sort of Skilltree so we would see a lot of different Monster Builds instead of a max everything Army.

For Chaos Upgraded I would always have preferred some sort of Skilltree so we would see a lot of different Monster Builds instead of a max everything Army.

As things were initially it was very hard to max everything, so if they'd been left unchanged we wouldn't have seen a max everything army. Instead the drop rate for Chaos tokens was increased and the Tokenize perks were added. The Penny Pincher perks were also refunded (unlike Scavenger (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)) so people had enough hath to get the Tokenizer perks.

The problem therefore wasn't that you could max everything, the problem was that it was made too easy by the devaluing of Chaos Tokens. The second half of the monster lab need to be prohibitively expensive to stop that happening again.

The cost of the second set of the Chaos upgrades should be precisely equal to the number of tokens I have at the time they're implemented!

The cost of the second set of the Chaos upgrades should be precisely equal to the number of tokens I have at the time they're implemented!

Not sure if srs.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Well that was fun. X-attack now increases attack speed by 20%, haste does in fact work as intended and increases attack speed by 50%, and slow decreases attack speed by 50%.

And there was much rejoicing! So much easier to test now!

Going to have to review this. Forgot to check how multiple monsters slow each other

X attack still 1.1 oops

This post has been edited by skillchip: Feb 27 2013, 00:40

As things were initially it was very hard to max everything, so if they'd been left unchanged we wouldn't have seen a max everything army. Instead the drop rate for Chaos tokens was increased and the Tokenize perks were added. The Penny Pincher perks were also refunded (unlike Scavenger (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)) so people had enough hath to get the Tokenizer perks.

The problem therefore wasn't that you could max everything, the problem was that it was made too easy by the devaluing of Chaos Tokens. The second half of the monster lab need to be prohibitively expensive to stop that happening again.

The cost of the second set of the Chaos upgrades should be precisely equal to the number of tokens I have at the time they're implemented!

Tokenizer is good. It allows non 24/7 players to get some too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Tokenizer is good. It allows non 24/7 players to get some too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You were getting enough tokens without Tokenizer. The problem was you spent them all upgrading all your monsters' Affection.

You don't care about your monsters, you just use them as tools to gather materials. You slave driver!

You were getting enough tokens without Tokenizer. The problem was you spent them all upgrading all your monsters' Affection.

You don't care about your monsters, you just use them as tools to gather materials. You slave driver!

I wouldn't mind being a slave depending on what I got out of it. I hear he feeds his slaves well.

I wouldn't mind being a slave depending on what I got out of it. I hear he feeds his slaves well.

You would be a slave for... food? Your standards sure are low.

You were getting enough tokens without Tokenizer. The problem was you spent them all upgrading all your monsters' Affection.

You don't care about your monsters, you just use them as tools to gather materials. You slave driver!

Nope. Some of them receive a extra Portion of love.
Like my Lisi or my Kougyuko or my...

I wouldn't mind being a slave depending on what I got out of it. I hear he feeds his slaves well.

I already catched a Morgiana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Some of them receive a extra Portion of love.

Sounds kinky. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

It was an injection

So.

I think I like the update overall.

Action Speed and Agility: On the one hand I'm no longer guaranteed to get all my buffs in before I'm attacked. On the other hand I don't seem to get utterly raped so quickly. Although that might be a combo of speed and chaos token changes, I'm not sure. Also, getting a lvl2 ET is much easier now given how ticks are working, but I still maintain the amount of mana returned is not enough. Definitely an improvement though, no question. High Five.

Finally Soul->Void conversion for old weapons. Nice.

I'm kinda sad about shield armor, but mostly because it was something nice to find in the midst of all the crap. I won't complain about the loss.

Plate armor doesn't drop in as many worthless suffixes? Nice.
Cool new prefixes for all armor types? Nice.
Chaos token damage reduction thing. Nice. Monster mitigation changes? Nice.
Haste change was undone in 0.74.1. Nice.

Resistance is still absurd and infuriating, and thus I assume working as intended.

Thanks for the update Tenb.

Actually, if anyone offered to feed me for me to be their slave, I'd be happy.

Just so you know, I eat a LOT . (I could eat an army out of house and home)

Actually, if anyone offered to feed me for me to be their slave, I'd be happy.

Just so you know, I eat a LOT . (I could eat an army out of house and home)

Must be tough to be your parents.

-OK

@Tenb

Thanks for the new update

Time to RIP my AGI and see how it turns out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by Frostbite: Feb 27 2013, 03:29

When solving a quiz I always have to search for my keyboard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
What about 4 clickable buttons A B C D ? The mouse is already in my hand!

That would be great.I have to downsize my page from 100% TO 75% to see the button to click it.

- Monster initiative (how many time units until first attack) is now random between 0.01 and 1.00 its attack speed, compared to a fixed 0.5 before.

1 7 You have been defeated.
1 6 Homicidalsage hits you for 1567 slashing damage.
1 5 Rain Lindwurm hits you for 4825 crushing damage.
1 4 Aasta hits you for 5097 crushing damage.
1 3 Succubus hits you for 3027 slashing damage.
1 2 You gain the effect Hastened.
1 1 You cast Haste.

It seems I got hit by 4 monsters with 0.01 initiative attack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Spark first (or spirit shield in this case)

Lesson learned!

And learning is half the.... what was i talking about?