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post Feb 25 2013, 13:09
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Feb 25 2013, 02:57) *

Besides monsters already have counter parry/counter-resist upgrades.
We should be able to counter parrying and resisting just like we can counter evade with 100%+ accuracy.

It is the only stat monsters have that we don't.
Well players don't have affection but that's not a battle stat.
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post Feb 25 2013, 13:19
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Feb 25 2013, 05:09) *

It is the only stat monsters have that we don't.
Well players don't have affection but that's not a battle stat.

They get fed crystals and tokens and all we get is an occasional gift and the business end of their attacks

So, I would call it a fair trade for a "sorry I tried to kill you, but here's a binding" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 13:27
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QUOTE(Lement @ Feb 25 2013, 00:19) *



Ahem. My thoughts after reading this thread.
I'm surprised at the lack of complaints from lights, but so many of them were probably already maxed AGI that it wouldn't matter - though making the light's go-to stat weaker is a bit of ouch.




I guess I could complain,but I think I will leave that to the professionals

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post Feb 25 2013, 13:45
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For succeeding in HV, read [qntm.org] http://qntm.org/science. It is rather long so search for string "The first thing Ching does is overclock his brain, pushing the virtual control all the way forward until it breaks."
There will you find a way to advantage with everything nerfed.
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post Feb 25 2013, 14:09
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After playing for about a day after the update, I have to say.
FUCK THIS UPDATE! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Yes all the new gear and all that is nice and cool..
I'm happy when I got to level 225, I done told my self I'm not gonna give a care about leveling up no more.
The thing is almost everything weapons, armor, etc...Got fucked over on this update (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I know a lot of people on here who have been bitching and whining about this update.
The only real thing I'm bitching about is all my armor (I have a mix of MAGS and LEGENDS) are useless now.
I used to play on HELL all the time, now I can't even do that.
I play on HELL and monsters are killing me in 1 to 2 hits.. WHAT THE FUCK???
At that time I will have Regen 2, Protection and spark of life on..
I can spam cure 2 but it don't do NO GOOD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Even back on NORMAL my armor is not doing a damn thing.
Every monster just crits me almost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Feb 25 2013, 14:43
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Tenboro, could you please double check to see if monster resists are working as intended? They seem to be triggering much, much more frequently since the patch. At first I thought I was just imagining things, but others have noticed that their spells are suddenly being resisted a lot more frequently as well.
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post Feb 25 2013, 14:51
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Feb 25 2013, 08:15) *

Really? I still have a piece of Shield Armor mixed in my 2hand set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Hm. Well. Now I'm unsure if that was intended or not, seeing as there is specific code in the system to prevent a block from causing block counter damage/stun if you don't use 1H style, which wouldn't make any sense if you weren't supposed to be able to block in the first place.

Eh. Guess it makes enough sense. And if that's what Past Me intended, who am I to argue.

QUOTE(n125 @ Feb 25 2013, 13:43) *

Tenboro, could you please double check to see if monster resists are working as intended? They seem to be triggering much, much more frequently since the patch. At first I thought I was just imagining things, but others have noticed that their spells are suddenly being resisted a lot more frequently as well.


Nothing has even changed in the hit roll code..
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post Feb 25 2013, 14:56
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 25 2013, 19:51) *

Hm. Well. Now I'm unsure if that was intended or not, seeing as there is specific code in the system to prevent a block from causing block counter damage/stun if you don't use 1H style, which wouldn't make any sense if you weren't supposed to be able to block in the first place.

Eh. Guess it makes enough sense. And if that's what Past Me intended, who am I to argue.
Nothing has even changed in the hit roll code..


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On a more serious note, how about monsters chaos upgrade? Can you check there? Cause you already made a mistake with the monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Also, I think if you can let us code review your code it'll be great. Not that that's likely to ever happen, of course, but just a thought (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 15:02
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I've actually been getting better at the commenting thing. Especially "clever" stuff. You don't do this for long until you look at something you wrote a year ago and go, "what the fuck is this supposed to even do!?"

QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 25 2013, 13:56) *
On a more serious note, how about monsters chaos upgrade? Can you check there? Cause you already made a mistake with the monsters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Heh, I actually did check it, it's fine. The only thing I can think of is the small evade boost, but that passes as evade, not resist..
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post Feb 25 2013, 15:19
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QUOTE(MikukoAya @ Feb 25 2013, 08:51) *

I don't expect to do as well as people. You guys get me all wrong there.

However, I would like to see my build not get nerfed every single time there is a patch. I don't know if it is my bad luck but every time I switch styles, it gets nerfed. I switch to a more agi heavy build and agi gets nerfed to hell. (I was only using agi for the action speed really and like 1 or 2 percent of evade with the HA burden reduction bonus.) Now, agi has become completely useless to me. Dexterity does everything agi does and more now for me....


I feel kinda that way. Except that not exactly. My worst feeling is that with every patch people's equipment get more and more devaluated. I really think there should be some sort of bonus for older players.

What I mean is, imagine if I stop playing right now and come back in 6 months, independent of my current build, I know that in six months it will be a lot worse, if not entirely trash. And that is kind of sad. Do you know what updates could be? A new difficulty IRWTBTH(I really want to be...) with 40x difficulty. This way, in my example, I wouldn't be able to clear IRWTBTH with my current equips (because they're so harder), but if I got the new equipment (in example, the new preffixed heavy armors) I probably would. In this way there wouldn't be any nerfs, even though there would be new content.

Of course, my example wasn't well thought or anything, I just tried to came up with a way to include *both* new content and no nerf. I would like to point out too that I don't care about being the best with my equipments, I just care about having a semi-constant performance with an unchanged build. Again, in this example, my legendary plate set of protection (I don't actually have one, by the way, I'm not even heavy) would be worse than a non-preffixed legendary plate set of protection, but that wouldn't make my past set worse.

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post Feb 25 2013, 15:32
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 25 2013, 23:02) *

Heh, I actually did check it, it's fine. The only thing I can think of is the small evade boost, but that passes as evade, not resist..

That suggests some people (not naming names) have been hoarding Chaos Tokens pre-patch, just waiting to see what you would do for Monster Lab v2.

And then once they figured out what the patch did, went ahead and blitzed their monsters with resists and whatnot. Just to screw with our heads. Thanks, guys.

Either that, or there's some complex interaction going on with the decoupling of action time and the global clock. But you said you checked, so...
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post Feb 25 2013, 15:38
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aloc1234: A) complaints about not being able to do IRWBTH B) There is time-dependent benefit in monster lab - in 6 months you'll hopefully have 6 months worth of gifts.

But looks like you understand the value of credit/gear sinks.

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post Feb 25 2013, 15:40
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Thanks for checking!

QUOTE(xmagus @ Feb 25 2013, 05:32) *
And then once they figured out what the patch did, went ahead and blitzed their monsters with resists and whatnot. Just to screw with our heads. Thanks, guys.

I'm going to blame it on mischievous ponies escaping from Snowflake's new pony orphanage and screwing with the hit rolls to get back at us for abandoning them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 15:56
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after new update burden kill all non-eth weapon.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
can we reduce the burden&interference of weapon by upgrade it?
upgrade anything once then we got 1% burden&interference reduce
upgrade 100 times = 0 burden&interference. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 16:04
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QUOTE(Lement @ Feb 25 2013, 23:38) *

aloc1234: A) complaints about not being able to do IRWBTH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) There is time-dependent benefit in monster lab - in 6 months you'll hopefully have 6 months worth of gifts.

But looks like you understand the value of credit/gear sinks.

Uh... no, you won't get 6 months' worth of gifts. You'll get 50 hours' worth of gifts. Maybe 100 hours', depending on how high your Affection is.

You're only ever gonna get a max of 2 gifts per monster each time you check, unless there's something I don't know about.

QUOTE(n125 @ Feb 25 2013, 23:40) *

Thanks for checking!
I'm going to blame it on mischievous ponies escaping from Snowflake's new pony orphanage and screwing with the hit rolls to get back at us for abandoning them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

But, but, but - the lasagne! Are you telling me that it's not horseflesh???!!! What are they making it out of? Cows??!!

@f9206424: Yeah, that would be a seriously expensive proposition. And it would absolutely screw over EVERYBODY who's maxforged their Legendary equips with many, many millions of credits' worth of mats.

I like it. Let's do that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 16:16
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So is block going to work in any setup like the good old days but only allow countrr when wearing a shield? Or are you going to change the code to make it only work when doing onehand
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post Feb 25 2013, 16:17
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Feb 25 2013, 08:04) *

But, but, but - the lasagne! Are you telling me that it's not horseflesh???!!! What are they making it out of? Cows??!!


The lasagna really is awesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 25 2013, 16:24
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 25 2013, 20:02) *

I've actually been getting better at the commenting thing. Especially "clever" stuff. You don't do this for long until you look at something you wrote a year ago and go, "what the fuck is this supposed to even do!?"
Heh, I actually did check it, it's fine. The only thing I can think of is the small evade boost, but that passes as evade, not resist..


Really? I can barely understand wtf I wrote 3 months ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

On a side note, does the evade from monster AGI nullified by 200% accuracy? Just curious.
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post Feb 25 2013, 16:40
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Feb 25 2013, 05:16) *

So is block going to work in any setup like the good old days but only allow countrr when wearing a shield?


If it's like this then shielding prefix is by far the best prefix for heavy armor.
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post Feb 25 2013, 17:00
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Idea for a new T2 Heavy Armor:
Stats:
- No PMi
- No MMi
- No avoidance stats(E/B/P/R)
- All 9 Specific Mitigations (=Plate/Slashing/suffix)
- Mid-High Burden (=Power Armor)
- Mid-High Interference (=Shade/nonArcanist)
- STR, END, INT, WIS possibles

4 unique Suffix:
"of something weapon"
-Increased Crush/Slash/Pierce Mitigation
-effectively similar to "of Protection" right now, but maybe one day monsters will have magical crush/slash/pierce attacks/skills like magic missile.

"of something elemental"
-Increased Elemental Mitigation

"of something else"
-Increased Holy/Dark Mitigation

"of the Battlecaster/Arcanist"
-No(BC)/Low(Arc) Interference
-+Mag.Accuracy stat
-+Minimal Conservation stat(1-2%)(BC), or not(Arc)

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