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So I heard heavy got nerfed. I don't know for others, but last week when I've reached the same round in GF, [img829.imageshack.us] my items weren't like that.

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Feb 24 2013, 17:19

So I heard heavy got nerfed. I don't know for others, but last week when I've reached the same round in GF, [img829.imageshack.us] my items weren't like that.

Perhaps you would like to try a higher difficulty, if you are a heavy melee player.

There's a fighting style perfect for ridiculous number of rounds in normal, after all - it's called maging.

Heavy melee is supposed to be for IWBTH/BT - sure, maybe at fewer rounds to begin with. If you can't do that, then I might as well go become a mage.

What's the scroll of shielding?

So I heard heavy got nerfed. I don't know for others, but last week when I've reached the same round in GF, [img829.imageshack.us] my items weren't like that.

You are on normal. Normal is a completely different game than a lot of us are playing.

If no newbies want anything in my store, I'm going to just npc off a bunch of superior stuff for money...


Can someone update this: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Auras

When I look at the hath perks page, the spectral auras are missing a bunch of the stuff on the wiki. Or is the wiki still accurate and the hath perk page just doesn't display anything? Cus right now, it seems like the spectral auras aren't worth it.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 24 2013, 18:09

You might want to drop the base factor of burd/inter to .5 from .7 since it can't be reduced anymore.

And why does there need to be another penalty? You took away another bonus from heavy without replacing it so fairs fair

Just my thought on burden.

Str+Dex+End, in some kind of formulas that Tenboro come up with, should lower heavy armor user's burden and leave it's penalty as is. This way it is not a straight burden reduction like the previous one, but still allow heavy to control it in some way.

Maybe set up a test server in the future so that people can first test the new system and give feedback? Whether it is an open or closed test server, I'm sure a bit of feedback first would make it more apparent what the patch will affect.

But I do agree that there should be something to reduce the effect of burden. I don't like the idea of having agility for the sole purpose of countering burden...

Maybe set up a test server in the future so that people can first test the new system and give feedback? Whether it is an open or closed test server, I'm sure a bit of feedback first would make it more apparent what the patch will affect.

But I do agree that there should be something to reduce the effect of burden. I don't like the idea of having agility for the sole purpose of countering burden...

Catgirl only

Haven't seen a single piece of armor with the new prefixes yet, and I've found a total of like 30 pieces so far.

I've gotta replace all my armor now that it's all obsolete, but when the new stuff isn't dropping, I feel like not playing at all anymore.

Heavy melee is supposed to be for IWBTH/BT - sure, maybe at fewer rounds to begin with. If you can't do that, then I might as well go become a mage.

I do remember someone with a bit of knowledge about the game, HTTP I think, said IWBTH wasn't an option before you could reach 70% PMI. As far as I know, it's true.

Hence here I'm on normal yes, and only compairing since last time (at 300 rounds I've spent almost 5 godly pots). I do my arenas on Hell currently, and I'm totally fine with that you know. Also, I don't plan to do Grindfest at a higher difficulty before a long long time.

I'll see once I reach more pack rat (only one lvl) and Innate Arcana too. And Magnificent/Legendary stuff too.

What's the scroll of shielding?

Ahah well xD. I used shielding/warding back then, and didn't removed it. It's not as if others would be over useful anyway.

You are on normal. Normal is a completely different game than a lot of us are playing.

I'm also completely different in the way I do my stuff alone, and no one landed me stuff for test or haths for whatever goods. What I own, I own it over myself alone. And you know what ? I'm fine with that ^^.

Fun thing is whacking monsters with a stick seems to do more damage than Magic Missile (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Something like that?

4 4 Void Strike crits Sakurai Kei for 1436 void damage.
4 3 Holy Strike crits Sakurai Kei for 803 holy damage.
4 2 Dark Strike crits Sakurai Kei for 1069 dark damage.
4 1 Arcane Blow crits Sakurai Kei for 5093 void damage.
3 2 Magic Missile blasts Sakurai Kei for 2592 piercing damage.
3 1 You cast Magic Missile.

I do remember someone with a bit of knowledge about the game, HTTP I think, said IWBTH wasn't an option before you could reach 70% PMI. As far as I know, it's true.

Hence here I'm on normal yes, and only compairing since last time (at 300 rounds I've spent almost 5 godly pots). I do my arenas on Hell currently, and I'm totally fine with that you know. Also, I don't plan to do Grindfest at a higher difficulty before a long long time.

I'll see once I reach more pack rat (only one lvl) and Innate Arcana too. And Magnificent/Legendary stuff too.
Ahah well xD. I used shielding/warding back then, and didn't removed it. It's not as if others would be over useful anyway.
I'm also completely different in the way I do my stuff alone, and no one landed me stuff for test or haths for whatever goods. What I own, I own it over myself alone. And you know what ? I'm fine with that ^^.

maybe uno that said you need 70% PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I can IWBTH 50 round arena and below with around 64% PMI from my full exquisite power of protection set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think High damage output is more important for IWBTH arena than high PMI except you doing IW or GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by ahenayau: Feb 24 2013, 18:30

Anyone know if the shrine drops equips with prefixes?
Just shrined like 50 trash trophies and not a single prefixed armor.

BTW there is a bug, if you one shot a round your buffs doesnt use time units.

Anyone know if the shrine drops equips with prefixes?
Just shrined like 50 trash trophies and not a single prefixed armor.

I believe they're as rare as ethereal/elemental weapons.

I believe they're as rare as ethereal/elemental weapons.

Isn't that a bit too rare? Thats like 1/500 or so, even less if quality has an effect on the appearance of it as a prefix.

Especially with the heavy armor nerfs, having shielding seems almost necessary at this point.

I do remember someone with a bit of knowledge about the game, HTTP I think, said IWBTH wasn't an option before you could reach 70% PMI. As far as I know, it's true.

Hence here I'm on normal yes, and only compairing since last time (at 300 rounds I've spent almost 5 godly pots). I do my arenas on Hell currently, and I'm totally fine with that you know. Also, I don't plan to do Grindfest at a higher difficulty before a long long time.

I'll see once I reach more pack rat (only one lvl) and Innate Arcana too. And Magnificent/Legendary stuff too.

1. You can do IWBTH/BT previously with much, much less than 70% PMI as a melee. I had mine drop to ~60% in 0.73 (from 67%, you can imagine how pissed I was), and it was still doable because I had speed and a good crit rate. And Protection did a whole lot more than maybe TenB intended, but that's none of our fault. I could reach Endgame at IWBTH in 0.73 so who knows what I could have done pre-nerf?

So, no, it's not true that you absolutely, positively need 70% back then. Hell, I'm not sure 70% is enough NOW. AGi is useless, Protection is useless, Shadow Veil is useless, my crit rate is for the shits.

2. The point is, any shitty playing style will work on Normal level. I can use a halfway-decent staff with Heavy armour and mage in Normal. I can use 1H + Board with Cloth armour in normal. You only reach IWBTH monster attack power at Round 300, and the whole time, the mobs have 10% their HP, and all their OTHER stats remain the same all the way through.

Basically, monsters eventually become Glass Cannons on Normal mode. If you can kill enough of them in the first 1-2 rounds, they're not gonna hit you too hard even from round 250-300.


Point being, because you're not playing in the same fields we are, you don't feel our pain. Which is fine, but don't tell us the pain doesn't exist. It's tolerable - bearable, even - but it's real, and I doubt we'll take it too kindly if you're all 'oh, I don't feel it at all, can't imagine what you're talking about'.

@danixxx: Isn't that more of a feature? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Infinite mana for mages, because you'll never have to (re)cast anything other than a T3 spell to wipe all enemies off the board...

That's good and all and I hear you. I just think, but maybe I'm wrong, that it wasn't a good way of thinking you could reach IWBTH at your lvl. That's all. After every patch I see people complaining again and again, so maybe there's a problem.

You say I'm not at your lvl of playing, that's good. Since two days I see melee peoples complaining about Hourlies not possible on IWBTH. I do them on IWBTH. I see peoples saying they can't do their arenas at the same lvl of difficulty as before. I can. All I'm saying is am I wrong for playing on lower, or you for playing on higher ? All I can see is that as more I grow in level I can set difficulty higher.

And for now, I'm at 415 round. Still feel good.

Don't think the total loss of AGI doesn't bugs me too, I was also working on it to reach a high speed to not depend on Haste constantly.

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Feb 24 2013, 19:09

Please raise monsters' damage.

What the heck am I reading lol? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Did he actually just said...

Why not just remove some armor pieces?

This post has been edited by kserox: Feb 24 2013, 20:06

Catgirl only

That would kill the point of testing for the most part.... You'd want someone from each group.

That's good and all and I hear you. I just think, but maybe I'm wrong, that it wasn't a good way of thinking you could reach IWBTH at your lvl. That's all. After every patch I see people complaining again and again, so maybe there's a problem.

You say I'm not at your lvl of playing, that's good. Since two days I see melee peoples complaining about Hourlies not possible on IWBTH. I do them on IWBTH. I see peoples saying they can't do their arenas at the same lvl of difficulty as before. I can. All I'm saying is am I wrong for playing on lower, or you for playing on higher ? All I can see is that as more I grow in level I can set difficulty higher.

And for now, I'm at 415 round. Still feel good.

Don't think the total loss of AGI doesn't bugs me too, I was also working on it to reach a high speed to not depend on Haste constantly.

You still aren't even close to the same playing field. round 415 on normal is like round 116 on IWBTH? Probably not even (based on my calculations, it is more like round 40). I'd like to hear about how far you get on IWBTH.

Hourlies are still possible on IWBTH just I lose credits doing it on IWBTH. The IA2 helped a lot as well as the haste being put back to normal, but even then... It still takes at least one more potion than before, mostly due to how regen works now.

On normal, I can pretty much just one shot RE without a second thought. Granted, certain arenas are still a pain (not difficult, just a pain).

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 24 2013, 20:16