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Jan 21 2013, 17:45
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jan 21 2013, 19:39)  Nah, I usually let the small fuckups slip by. When you see me whining, you know the fuckup this time is huge. Aw come on, this patch raped the melee, not mages. We lost much more than you, but I'm not whining. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jan 21 2013, 19:39)  Also melee people are gay for mages. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Nah, it'd be useless, because your "backdoors" are occupied with your staves shoved deep inside 'em. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jan 21 2013, 17:48
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jan 21 2013, 10:45)  Nah, it'd be useless, because your "backdoors" are occupied with your staves shoved deep inside 'em. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Wait, is that how you're supposed to mage? Here I've been doing it wrong the whole time, holding my stave in my hands!
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Jan 21 2013, 17:51
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Ichy
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 09

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Oh boi melee vs mage drama again? Oh wait just Scorpio trolling.
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Jan 21 2013, 17:51
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varst
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 21 2013, 23:19)  Then why the fuck did multiple people whine about not being able to run ET on more than one monster at a time anymore if that wasn't actually the problem?
(IMG:[ data.whicdn.com] http://data.whicdn.com/images/23815572/tumblr_lzz6pxGlsk1r0n3iho1_400_large.jpg) I do love the new ET, don't mistaken me; ticking on player's turn do provide better benefit. However, the new change is countered by the decrease in MP from monsters. I do understand that it may be too OP in terms of MP recovered if the whole ET thing's faster, but 2% is just way too low: we're getting the same amount of MP PER TICK previously compared to the whole ET duration now. (I was getting some 50 MP per tick from monsters before the patch; I'm getting 21 MP per tick now.) As I'm getting less than 50% of MP regened previously, I'll need to ET way more often, which in turn is way more dangerous than before. And as I've said, it's simply impossible to stack ET. because we only get 1 CM from each spell.
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Jan 21 2013, 17:53
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danixxx
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 3-September 10

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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 21 2013, 18:30)  Also it IS a problem to not get multi stack. It was a common Strategy in Schoolgirl marathons. People who did not do so did it wrong (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I didn't use ET on more than one schoolgirl before, i thought the ET change was intentional to slow down mages in arenas.
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Jan 21 2013, 17:56
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jcullinane
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jan 21 2013, 10:36)  The reason I mentioned the outdated stuff is because I was using it as an argument to why melees should be nerfed like they are now.
Irrelevant. That had nothing to do with my post and findings. You responded to my argument with a completely different argument (mage vs melee). QUOTE In addition, your requirements of finding other users who don't agree with the patch is extremely biased, as people tend to have negative and disagreeable attitudes towards a change that negatively affects them and forces them to adapt. Therefore, you're pretty much asking me the impossible. Credibility. You've already pointed out, evidenced by your own posts, that you haven't yourself ran the battery post-patch with melee, so either have something else, like, other users that agree with your points using their experiences, or such claims are non sequitur. - JC
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Jan 21 2013, 18:08
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(grumpymal @ Jan 21 2013, 19:48)  Wait, is that how you're supposed to mage? Here I've been doing it wrong the whole time, holding my stave in my hands! Yeah, experienced mages say the staff shoved up your ass dramatically increases your magic score and also prevent you from assrape by monsters, because you can't rape the ass which is already occupied. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 21 2013, 19:51)  Oh boi melee vs mage drama again? Oh wait just Scorpio trolling. (IMG: https://forums.e-hentai.org/uploads/post-329682-1358784470.png)
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Jan 21 2013, 18:15
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skillchip
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Why not have specific mit sum now instead of multiplicative inverse since it doesn't scale anymore
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Jan 21 2013, 18:17
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jan 21 2013, 16:30)  The MAIN problem is that you halved the MP gain. Give back the old MP gain rate and the whining will stop, guaranteed. You guarantee it, huh? That's quite bold of you.. The old gain rate doesn't translate directly to a heal over time, but when you say that it's decreased that's probably accurate. So what I am going to do is increase the duration of ET by one, to make it easier to stack. That was originally a part of .1, but I kept it out, since it's easier to buff something than to nerf it.
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Jan 21 2013, 18:21
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kingwolf
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jan 21 2013, 10:08)  Yeah, experienced mages say the staff shoved up your ass dramatically increases your magic score and also prevent you from assrape by monsters, because you can't rape the ass which is already occupied. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) There is no equipment slot for asshole. Is it something you have to unlock?
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Jan 21 2013, 18:25
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 22 2013, 00:17)  You guarantee it, huh? That's quite bold of you..
About this patch, yes. This is the only change that is so big that it screws over mages bigtime. Notice how nobody whined about the Aether Shard or Ebony staff changes. QUOTE The old gain rate doesn't translate directly to a heal over time, but when you say that it's decreased that's probably accurate. So what I am going to do is increase the duration of ET by one, to make it easier to stack. That was originally a part of .1, but I kept it out, since it's easier to buff something than to nerf it.
Or... just give us back the old ET. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Seriously, melee remains braindead, and now you want mages to do double the effort for half the reward.
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Jan 21 2013, 18:26
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(kingwolf @ Jan 21 2013, 20:21)  There is no equipment slot for asshole. Is it something you have to unlock?
Nah, I assume staff goes into the "Legs" slot, so mages are fighting without pants. Which makes sense, because I'm pretty sure you can't wear pants with the staff shoved up your ass. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Jan 21 2013, 18:27
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Jan 21 2013, 18:27
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kjeron
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jan 21 2013, 11:26)  Nah, I assume staff goes into the "Legs" slot, so mages are fighting without pants. Which makes sense, because I'm pretty sure you can't wear pants with the staff shoved up your ass. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And thus mages can now dual-wield staves.
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Jan 21 2013, 18:27
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Maximum_Joe
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You also took out the actual draining of mana from monsters which is another nerf, albeit not a big one.
If Illithid weapons worked in the same fashion monsters basically wouldn't need a real mana amount anymore. You can just give every monster 40 MP and have them gain 2 points every turn they get (1 point if poisoned), same end result with less hassle for the server to compute.
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Jan 21 2013, 18:30
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jan 21 2013, 20:25)  Or... just give us back the old ET. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Seriously, melee remains braindead, and now you want mages to do double the effort for half the reward. Mages were made to suffer and to be constantly raped. Isn't that obivous? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(kjeron @ Jan 21 2013, 20:27)  And thus mages can now dual-wield staves. Nah, they need at least one free hand. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Evil Scorpio: Jan 21 2013, 18:34
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Jan 21 2013, 18:33
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skillchip
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 31-December 06

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Also. Why just anothet enchantment that mainly benefits melee. Infusing a staff for more strikes doesn't really help much. Now if that boosted damage output or gave a second cast (think strike for spells) then it would help both sides.
Why not let et proc if mages kill any mob with a staff hit. Wont disrupt the balance would it?
Another question. Where is the niten syle we were promised
This post has been edited by skillchip: Jan 21 2013, 18:36
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Jan 21 2013, 18:33
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jan 21 2013, 17:33)  Why not let et proc if mages kill any mob with a staff hit. Wont disrupt the balance would it? It does that. Which was one of the implicit buffs with the new ET.
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Jan 21 2013, 18:37
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skillchip
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 21 2013, 16:33)  It does that. Which was one of the implicit buffs with the new ET.
I thought it had to have coelesed on it for it to proc. Im saying have it proc even if there is no cm on the mob
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Jan 21 2013, 19:00
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kramerica
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QUOTE(MSimm1 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:03)  I'm not showing the Aura Slot ability points on my ability tree (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Do we just reset and the three extra ability points are just there? I just reset my ability points and did not get them, so I dunno. Unless I calculated it wrong: At level 237 and 66/100 ability training, that should be 302 or 303, but I only was able to spend 298.
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Jan 21 2013, 19:11
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Zero Angel
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Seriously, fuck the noob mages who were saying the old ET was hard. This whole Ether Tap bullshit could have been avoided if they had the brains to keep their mouths shut. Sigh, stupidity won this day. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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