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so has ten made any official statement of whether or not the aura trainings are going to be refunded?
i dont particularly feel like treading through 62 pages of posts to find out.

I think people were saying that he's going to put anyone that asks on the list of no refunds and refund everyone else. And that for every person that asks, he's going to push back the refund date by a week.

But that is just heresy hearsay.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 10 2013, 06:02

For level ups, that is true.
For monsters.... Depends on how many crystals get spammed and what the original PL was. (I still can't tell how mid-combat buffing affects the monster since it hasn't happened enough for me to check)
For SP (karma buffing), it could potentially knock you out of SoL.

I'm fairly sure monster stats are determined when they show up. If someone feeds them they will show up the next time IF you can still meet them.

And how is Karma spam an issue? you can only hand out green Karma after all...
Too bad I wanted to rednuke some people but I can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Green karma increases the total and base, but not current karma. With right timing, this can mean one less spark which results in death, potentially boosting the kill base of your mobs.

I'm fairly sure monster stats are determined when they show up. If someone feeds them they will show up the next time IF you can still meet them.

And how is Karma spam an issue? you can only hand out green Karma after all...
Too bad I wanted to rednuke some people but I can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

When you scan them though, I think it shows their current stats. That is why I'm not sure if crystal feeding the monster during battle would affect the monsters' difficulty. If nothing else, you can potentially get the wrong result if say... The monster is weak to lightning when you first encounter it but then the owner buffs it to be strong against lightning, even if it doesn't change the actual strength during battle, the player will see that it is strong to lightning while it is actually currently weak.

This is from what I can tell based on past experiences and what other people have suggested might've caused said past experiences. Tenboro would be the one that knows the truth of whether it was a bug, what people suggested it could be, or w/e

Green karma increases the total and base, but not current karma. With right timing, this can mean one less spark which results in death, potentially boosting the kill base of your mobs.

This. As I mentioned, this has happened to me once or twice. Funny thing is that I'm almost certain that the person didn't mean to cause me to almost die (thankfully, I've been bringing one extra SP pot just in case though it kills an mp pot slot in exchange, I'm that much less likely to get screwed over by a sudden mass karma boost. Once my karma is high enough or Tenboro changes his system, I can put an MP pot back in that slot...).

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 10 2013, 08:52

Same crap.

I'm for it.

Should we create a thread to petition for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ? (COD with Hath)

This post has been edited by richlich: Feb 10 2013, 12:11

Should we create a thread to petition for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ? (COD with Hath)

Yea dude, let's start a petition [petitions.whitehouse.gov] here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yea dude, let's start a petition [petitions.whitehouse.gov] here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[petitions.whitehouse.gov]

Ya know, somehow I don't think this was quite the effect you were hoping for...

Besides, Prez BHOmbastic ain't hardly likely to hear anything hoi polloi have to say.

I bought a reasonable scythe to use-not the best but a lot better than anything I had...

I don't even use pots anymore during arenas/RoBs/fixed duration combat.... Gawd melee feels overpowered even with no proficiencies (though I gained a bunch considering it was at 0).

Mage build, I'm burning through mp like mad and have to focus a lot (or burn through a lot of mp pots) which means long bouts of not using magic but whacking things for mp.

Melee build, I just toss on the buffs and I just focus as I go since I'm melee'ing anyways, toss on spirit when I'm about to buff to drop the mp cost... And I usually end up with no significant MP loss and my SP stays near full. And as I gain proficiency, it is getting easier... Heck, I don't even cast SoL anymore and I really only shadow veil at the beginning to help me get set up and near the 90 round point when the mobs start swarming. I don't even cast cure except for those times since regen II keeps me at full health. I pretty much just run most rounds with Heartseeker, Regen II, Haste, and IA1: Protection. Though I'm still using protection more for the prof gain than anything else...

Only thing is that melee kinda is annoyingly slow when I lag due to the lag time between rounds that I sometimes get.


So right now my thoughts from my personal experience thus far are:

Melee: Cheaper, safer, easier (not much thinking involved once you have your gears set up), faster if it doesn't take long to load the page due to the ability to just spam number buttons for the most part instead of having to click a spell and a number.
Magic: Faster turn-wise, faster if you have customized hotkeys set up to cast spells and hit a number quickly.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 11 2013, 06:22

Yes, melee is safer, but takes considerably longer to clear rounds. Like, 3 times as many turns longer.

During my hourly battle I noticed something strange. At start, everything was normal as shown here:



Because I never use spirit for anything other than SoL, I didn't even notice this until I recast SoL and saw that my HP didn't turn silver.

SoL takes 50% of base spirit points

not your max sp

This post has been edited by eqwer: Feb 11 2013, 10:49

SoL takes 50% of base spirit points

not your max sp

Please explain your math on that. I am not aware of anything that _reduces_ SP, so if there is a difference between base and max SP it must either have occurred during the fight (leveling or powerlevel increase) or the SP cost of SoL would be less than half the current max, right? What am I missing?

Please explain your math on that. I am not aware of anything that _reduces_ SP, so if there is a difference between base and max SP it must either have occurred during the fight (leveling or powerlevel increase) or the SP cost of SoL would be less than half the current max, right? What am I missing?

Already explained on the "Ask the experts" thread, your base SP might increase if someone imbues you with karma (-> increasing your power, therefore your base SP).
About the difference between base and max SP, it's just about SP tanks. For example, my base is 125 and my max is 192, so I lose 62 (or 63, never checked the rounding) and have 130sp left.

In other words, they are effectively the same for whether you can use SoL due to the fact that they are related. If one goes up due to karma, the other will too and thus the cost of SoL will go up. pervdiz's explaination is probably the easiest way to understand it though.


Also, eqwer has a habit of only paying attention to what makes him right. I don't know if he is trolling on purpose or if he has tunnel vision.

If you look at the screenshots, you'll see what the person was actually talking about. Pay attention to the first two screenshots. See how his base SP jumps from 249 to 256?

Although I have to say that the 128 taken away is correct since the boost in base sp didn't raise his current sp. 149-128=121.

As I've mentioned before, this has happened to me before-and it is annoying when it happens and it is much worse for lower level players since even a kind act can kill them.


Say they have no karma and are level 110 (about when they'll be used to SoL). I just happen to go on a random karma giving trip and select a random low level by going through the member numbers...

Suddenly mid-battle they jump from say 200 SP with a base of 150 to say 599 total SP with a base of 450.... but their current SP is still 200 and now they need 225 SP to use SoL. If they were about to get hit and knocked to death, I just killed them by jumping their base SP. What really worries me is whether they will die or spark if they are killed that turn that they get jumped in SP/karma.

If they've already sparked, pretty much any sudden major jump in karma can kill them at the lower levels.

During my hourly battle I noticed something strange. At start, everything was normal as shown here:

(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/1ZTUt.png)

But then on next round when I cast SV, my Spirit pool suddenly jumped (I didn't even notice that at the time).

(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/1ZTVn.png)

Which of course was a potentially serious situation, since SoL takes 50% of spirit points when it procs.

Just before SoL proc:
(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/1ZTRu.png)

And it did, but when that happened, it didn't take 50% of the spirit points; if it was either original 249 or new 256, I would've ended up with 124 or 128 left respectively. Instead I got 121 left, which is more than 50%.

After SoL proc:
(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/1ZTSD.png)

Because I never use spirit for anything other than SoL, I didn't even notice this until I recast SoL and saw that my HP didn't turn silver.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 11 2013, 18:48

I don't think imbue Karma is much of a problem. You need to imbue Karma right at the moment that the target has exact enough SP to spark but not enough HP to survive and enough Karma to be increased to the next level. It's like trying to use a bow to shoot an arrow to a specific rain drop in a storm while wearing a blindfold.

I don't think imbue Karma is much of a problem. You need to imbue Karma right at the moment that the target has exact enough SP to spark but not enough HP to survive and enough Karma to be increased to the next level. It's like trying to use a bow to shoot an arrow to a specific rain drop in a storm while wearing a blindfold.

Or just whenever they don't have SP pots left? If they are a mage, they probably won't survive using soul to recover SP. And if you wanted to specifically try to kill someone, just watch them for a period of a week. You'll start seeing when they level and when they are on and such.

Data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration compiled primarily from newspaper clippings for 1959-1990 identified an annual average of 93 deaths and 257 injuries attributable to lightning

Yeah rare, but happens.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 11 2013, 19:12

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I don't think it counts as paranoia when it has already happened... More of dwelling on the past. As i said, it has happened to me twice. It has obviously happened to others also though I'm not sure how bad it was for them.


And as i mentioned, if it was just me that was affected, I wouldn't care since I'm already past the point where anything but an intentional attempt can hurt me. It is the low levels/new players that I'm worried about.

My fortune for last year (the past four years really): Worst Luck (Worst Misfortune Possible really)

I wonder what my "fortune" for this year is going to be... Will I break my worst luck streak? Getting hit by cars is not fun...

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Feb 11 2013, 20:49

I don't think it counts as paranoia when it has already happened... More of dwelling on the past. As i said, it has happened to me twice. It has obviously happened to others also though I'm not sure how bad it was for them.
And as i mentioned, if it was just me that was affected, I wouldn't care since I'm already past the point where anything but an intentional attempt can hurt me. It is the low levels/new players that I'm worried about.

My fortune for last year (the past four years really): Worst Luck (Worst Misfortune Possible really)

I wonder what my "fortune" for this year is going to be... Will I break my worst luck streak? Getting hit by cars is not fun...

Why should anyone care about this? Karma is going bye bye.

I don't think it counts as paranoia when it has already happened... More of dwelling on the past. As i said, it has happened to me twice. It has obviously happened to others also though I'm not sure how bad it was for them.
And as i mentioned, if it was just me that was affected, I wouldn't care since I'm already past the point where anything but an intentional attempt can hurt me. It is the low levels/new players that I'm worried about.

My fortune for last year (the past four years really): Worst Luck (Worst Misfortune Possible really)

I wonder what my "fortune" for this year is going to be... Will I break my worst luck streak? Getting hit by cars is not fun...

Literally paranoid.

love this game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)