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but you lose lot of xp, no legendary mob legendary arenas(the first 50 rounds part) have the highest xp, second by gf

after you passed lv.300, money making will be easier

I thought gf stopped handing out credits.

I thought gf stopped handing out credits.

I'm not sure if he means the level 300ish arenas have better drops or if he is referring to GF drops...


I know a bunch of people have been saying that drops give the money but...

I'm poor as heck still and I have not seen any real light. And I have been working on my drop rate/quality trainings.

It doesn't matter who nailed it - somebody always wants to buy haths, and would have bought them. Someone is always checking hath exchange. And somebody always sells hath still at prices from year ago. Buying hath cheapest you can isn't proof of cheating - 15k is even the market price.

It however isn't worth the time to stalk it either, but people can get bored from just killing monsters. In the end, it is just a game. If you cannot be bothered to stalk it, and can't be bothered to use that time to grind, either, that's completely ok as well...But complaining that someone is willing to do one of them - I certainly remember some of the complaining when Tenboro revealed one char obtaining millions from gf in a day - makes one just look bad. Wanting to have captcha on all deals when there's less than worthy amount of deals that are set under the market price that would be nabbed by anybody on top of that? Take a guess.

eqwer: I was IWing for cash before I unlocked Arcane Focus, you don't need to be high-level to IW - in fact, at high level it is better to gf if you have the crystarium perks, while IWing is more for those who lack them. He may be not as strong as top-line players, but that means that he won't do as well in things he could do other than IWing as well though.

eqwer: I was IWing for cash before I unlocked Arcane Focus, you don't need to be high-level to IW - in fact, at high level it is better to gf if you have the crystarium perks, while IWing is more for those who lack them. He may be not as strong as top-line players, but that means that he won't do as well in things he could do other than IWing as well though.

It is just ironic that it was easier to IW at lower levels then higher huh

This post has been edited by skillchip: Feb 6 2013, 04:54

I see no problems with IWing being the trait of mid-level players, who don't take as many turns or time even if they take comparatively more damage and less rewards from drops.

Do you have some proof that he isn't? That's why I asked about captcha. I bet boots on it we will se the different thing in this case.

So show me proof that YOU aren't cheating?

What an idiotic and butthurt way of thinking tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Just because some people can dedicate more time and effort to the game doesn't mean they're cheating. If you can show us records of him buying haths for cheap 24/7 then I'll believe you. That was your claim, no?

I checked his sell thread, he pretty much only post there once or twice a day.

Again, where's your "evidence"? If you can't show evidence, I'll just have to continue believing you're just butthurt.

tl;dr - Evidence or you're QQing.

Just because some people can dedicate more time and effort to the game

'Game' huh? 'Me against the bot'? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If you can't show evidence

Evidence of what, mister Holmes? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you don't have any God existing' evidences, that does not mean that God does not exist. Again: keep these 'jealous' and 'butthurt' arguments for suckers. My suggestion was that with captcha we'll see another cup of tea and that's it.

A) I'm not under the impression that you are competing. You don't have much in the way to show that you're interested in putting in staring on hath exchange hours per day. Nor is there much to compete about in buying cheap haths.
B) You are quite arrogant in thinking that you couldn't lose to another human all the time.
C) You asked for proof that he isn't cheating. ChosenUno even bothered to look in thread on your claims. Yet you are not giving out any proof that you aren't cheating(Hmm, the previous 2 statements spring to mind) when you ask that of others. Though even if you have bot, you'd still lose by nature of distance and likelihood of human being who's closer nabbing it first.
D) The time and bandwidth taken to solve captchas for all the deals on hath exchange is far greater loss than somebody buying haths with outdated prices - prices that you're jealous that you couldn't nab first, yet don't have the records to show any effort for.

Yes, lack of evidence of existence of sth doesn't necessarily mean the nonexistence of sth when all the information isn't at hand. But you, Laboq, complain over few hath being sold at less-than-market prices to someone other than you, which is completely trivial if you put in any effort at all, imply that you couldn't lose, which implies that you have poorly written bot written as you're not putting in any effort that would make the gains made by waiting on cheap haths trivial, sitting on it and all you have to show for wanting to implement captcha is a thread with rare posts and 4 non-strange different purchases off hath exchange made by 2 different people.

I'm not saying that it is impossible that such a bot exists. I'm saying that nothing would change if captcha were to be implemented other than users being inconvenienced. Strikes me as jealous botter, troll or both. A captcha would hurt everyone while not changing the speed at which cheap haths are nabbed off.

So show me proof that YOU aren't cheating?

Almost forgot: have you ever seen a cheater who said 'please make anti-cheat system to kick my arse'? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You are quite arrogant in thinking that you couldn't lose to another human all the time.

Correction: not to lose to another human, but all other humans are mostly losers. And this kinda suspiciously for me.

ChosenUno even bothered to look in thread

He ought to check the auction' log instead. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm not saying that it is impossible that such a bot exists. I'm saying that nothing would change if captcha were to be implemented other than users being inconvenienced. Strikes me as jealous botter, troll or both. A captcha would hurt everyone while not changing the speed at which cheap haths are nabbed off.

Do you know some other anti-cheating methods except captcha? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: Feb 6 2013, 07:07

Do you know some other anti-cheating methods except captcha? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Yes, Tenboro has one for the auctions.

Almost forgot: have you ever seen a cheater who said 'please make anti-cheat system to kick my arse'? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Correction: not to lose to another human, but all other humans are mostly losers. And this kinda suspiciously for me.

He ought to check the auction' log instead. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Do you know some other anti-cheating methods except captcha? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Auction log? I only saw 3 purchases.

So according to your logic, chocobox and hfc5j2 are both botters right?

hentairazor 58M ago 1 Hath 16,000 C 16,000 C 16,000 C chocobox
mugiwara 58M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 16,000 C chocobox
choostrawn 59M ago 10 Hath 100 C 160,000 C 160,000 C chocobox
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2
Lord_Obagon 1H 6M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,750 C hfc5j2

Sigh...

This post has been edited by ChosenUno: Feb 6 2013, 07:48

hentairazor 17M ago 1 Hath 15,000 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
shintsu 21M ago 10 Hath 100 C N/A 150,000 C Kelenius
shintsu 21M ago 10 Hath 100 C N/A 150,000 C Kelenius
observer1980 3H 42M ago 1 Hath 1,000 C 15,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
observer1980 3H 42M ago 1 Hath 1,000 C 15,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
EX-S 6H 22M ago 10 Hath 100 C N/A 150,000 C Kelenius
Dehvokan 6H 24M ago 5 Hath 100 C N/A 75,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 6H 51M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 6H 52M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 6H 52M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 6H 53M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 6H 53M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 15,000 C Kelenius
saturnnights 7H 47M ago 1 Hath 100 C 16,000 C 16,000 C dragonblade150
Ragnarok_ 7H 51M ago 1 Hath 100 C N/A 15,000 C Kelenius
the117spartan 10H 27M ago 10 Hath 130,000 C 150,000 C 150,000 C Kelenius
Ragnarok_ 10H 29M ago 1 Hath 100 C N/A 15,000 C Kelenius
Ragnarok_ 10H 29M ago 1 Hath 100 C N/A 15,000 C Kelenius

Sigh... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: Feb 6 2013, 08:10

45 seconds in between bids, this is bot material!!

Sigh... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And your point is?

I don't see evidence of 24/7 activity. I don't see evidence of foul play. What is your point?

From what you posted, I only see a guy that checks the hath exchange every couple of hours and managed to snatch a few great deals.

If you look at the exchange RIGHT NOW, you can see many deals with 15k as the price. Fuck, they must all be cheaters, right? Managed to snatch the deal so damn fast, right?

Feel free to outbid them, if you're so inclined.

Don't bitch and whine when someone pays effort and gets rewarded for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Dude, let Tenbro handle this. We're not having a witch-hunt here, and we don't have the log to prove which one's botter or not.

This post has been edited by varst: Feb 6 2013, 08:27

And your point is?

I don't see evidence of 24/7 activity. I don't see evidence of foul play. What is your point?

From what you posted, I only see a guy that checks the hath exchange every couple of hours and managed to snatch a few great deals.

If you look at the exchange RIGHT NOW, you can see many deals with 15k as the price. Fuck, they must all be cheaters, right? Managed to snatch the deal so damn fast, right?

Feel free to outbid them, if you're so inclined.

Don't bitch and whine when someone pays effort and gets rewarded for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

people can't make more than 1 bid per minute, that's botting! oh noes!!!!!

Laboq tell us when you see the entire auction sheet made on the same minute

we might actually consider taking it seriously rather than as the ramblings of being a Big Baby

This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Feb 6 2013, 08:20

I don't see evidence of 24/7 activity.

Go wash your face.

From what you posted, I only see a guy that checks

That's your guess only.

Dude, let Tenbro hendle this. We're not having a witch-hunt here, and we don't have the log to prove which one's botter or not.

Ok, sir.

This post has been edited by Laboq: Feb 6 2013, 08:25

Go wash your face.

That's your guess only.

So what makes your guess more correct than mine? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i'm a big baby

ok

So what makes your guess more correct than mine? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Chances. Proof isnt essential for different qualitiy of suggestions.
I´ve also noticed that he always gets a bunch of Hath for 15k really every day. Thats not a proof. Even a 24/7-activity wouldnt be a proof either because you could e.g. say, that he has a partner, who just go to the computer while the other one is sleeping . But every day of such bids increases the chances that he is a botter.
Not a proof, but its enough to ask Tenb to just checking out.

I am wondering what proof you would demand, if someone suggest to make captchas/riddlemaster on arenas. (if they werent there already). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Maybe you would also say: Stop QQ and make your own arenas.

Dude, let Tenbro handle this. We're not having a witch-hunt here, and we don't have the log to prove which one's botter or not.

^this

This post has been edited by Nottle: Feb 6 2013, 10:01