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hmmm maybe i'm just too tired (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Okay, I think the balance for this new patch is out of wacked. I just got one-shotted by a mob in IWBTH with power levels <1000 despite having 50% bl, 60% pmi. None of the attacks were even critical. The balance of this game is screwed imo.

All the cool cats use spirit shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I can still get ohko by an sp attack from a nightmare IW mob circa. r~70 and I have 64/53.4 mit before prot.

edit: xd skill name fail

This post has been edited by Herp in your Derp: Feb 2 2013, 07:49

I'm using prot more for prof training right now than for actually using the +mit.

Well, if it was only those 5k a day, per account, if hes been playing as long as you have that 5.5 million (not including any other drops). If we're talking about Mechafujoshi's 50 accounts, that would be over 273 million.

Don't overestimate.

This is a browser game. You cannot avoid botter.

What you need is to make them not profitable using bot. We can see the fucking high inflation almost ceased after GF drops no more credit.

I suggest to do something on the above normal grinding activity, eg no more credit after certain rounds a day.

Don't overestimate.

This is a browser game. You cannot avoid botter.

What you need is to make them not profitable using bot. We can see the fucking high inflation almost ceased after GF drops no more credit.

I suggest to do something on the above normal grinding activity, eg no more credit after certain rounds a day.

There are no credit source outside of arenas.

There are no credit source outside of arenas.

RoB?

RoB?

ring is a type of arena

ring is a type of arena

Well, RE is an income source too, but 200c per hour is laughable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

There are no credit source outside of arenas.

RoB, selling the equip drops, selling the artifact drops, selling crystals. Not nearly as consistent though.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Feb 2 2013, 11:13

Don't overestimate.

This is a browser game. You cannot avoid botter.

What you need is to make them not profitable using bot. We can see the fucking high inflation almost ceased after GF drops no more credit.

I suggest to do something on the above normal grinding activity, eg no more credit after certain rounds a day.

You really should back things up instead of making claims. Those are exact calculations using only the credits ChosenUno suggested was viable per day, his account length, and an explicit admission of how many bots a botter used.

RoB, selling the equip drops, selling the artifact drops, selling crystals. Not nearly as consistent though.

All the ones you listed requires a high level AND considerable investment into trainings to be worthwhile.

To be honest, it's way easier to clear all the RoBs, which you can do at 110, on normal, and then transfer the clear bonus which is close to a million credits to the main account.

It'll probably take about a week if the small guy's got gear. What's the point of running 50 guys on 55 rounds of arenas when you can do that and make way more?

Credits is close to worthless at high levels anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The only thing credits is good for these days is pretty much just trainings.

All the ones you listed requires a high level AND considerable investment into trainings to be worthwhile.

To be honest, it's way easier to clear all the RoBs, which you can do at 110, on normal, and then transfer the clear bonus which is close to a million credits to the main account.

It'll probably take about a week if the small guy's got gear. What's the point of running 50 guys on 55 rounds of arenas when you can do that and make way more?

Ya know... I never thought of doing that. VBEG. I suspect if I ran a TOR browser (or tunnelled using I2P), I could make that work without too much trouble. And TenB would tear his hair out trying to figure it out.

Credits is close to worthless at high levels anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The only thing credits is good for these days is pretty much just trainings.

Says the guy with a guaranteed high source of credits every Dawn and 1k Hath to burn (so, what did you finally decide, IA5 or DD1?)

Without a regular source of Hath, I have to buy them at a rate of 15-16k a pop (and it's not getting cheaper), or hope that I can Shrine some Artifacts to make it up. Just to hit IA2, that's gonna take me a few more months.

You can buy bindings and other mats, or you can upgrade your mobs - and don't tell me that doesn't cost credits.

Ya know... I never thought of doing that. VBEG. I suspect if I ran a TOR browser (or tunnelled using I2P), I could make that work without too much trouble. And TenB would tear his hair out trying to figure it out.
Says the guy with a guaranteed high source of credits every Dawn and 1k Hath to burn (so, what did you finally decide, IA5 or DD1?)

Without a regular source of Hath, I have to buy them at a rate of 15-16k a pop (and it's not getting cheaper), or hope that I can Shrine some Artifacts to make it up. Just to hit IA2, that's gonna take me a few more months.

You can buy bindings and other mats, or you can upgrade your mobs - and don't tell me that doesn't cost credits.

I make only 5 haths a day from H@H, plus 1 from star, equals 6. I get 10k credits from dawn a day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The rest I make from selling shit, just like everyone else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And as a mage, it's natural to choose DD1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And as a mage, it's natural to choose DD1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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ChosenUno: With 1h and some swiftness scrolls, you can take FSM on at 100. Takes annoyingly long time to kill him though(I'd expect sth close to 5k non-holddownable but fairly simple to write a bot for rounds now at IWBTH, unless the PMI change greatly hurt FSM at that level). Week is a bit too long if focused for that though, given the exp from randoms.

xmagus: Toring that? Enjoy resetting your password. Regardless of the method for switching from one to next, not really worth it - the noodly and equip drop aren't that bad, along with regular income from crystarium, arts, equips, more arenas at higher difficulty...the overhead gets big enough, can't do only randoms due lack of blood too - I think we all remember the days where when we could fight FSM was scarce and saving blood tokens for higher level was recommended, that it becomes a question why not just do gf on crys5 instead. Decent, not even good mages get tens of thousands crystals per hour from that and there is both the opportunity for further investment for interest - which anybody who brothers to set up a bot for personal gain is likely to be interested in - and selling them at their market value...Yes, bot doesn't require such huge investments, but anybody skilled enough to set up the bot for that would do it to sell it to others, really.

As for the 5k a day thing....that's even worse, for obvious reasons.

Any new patch this week?
In fact I am here to delay the update.

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Yeah. Cool Kids aim for Paradise Lost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Any new patch this week?
In fact I am here to delay the update.

if it exist, i hope riddle can occur as gate of arena, then we have few rounds (5~9) rest before second

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This post has been edited by KXM: Feb 2 2013, 15:12