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post Jul 30 2022, 17:58
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400级jjc最后有点难打，debuff技能怎么选择啊，魔磁网，缓慢，虚弱，沉默，优先级怎么说
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post Jul 30 2022, 18:13
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) 风雷防御面大概差多少呢？

我现在的感觉就是GF600层以后，如果我在放完3个imp+一个T3后没有爆火花，那我后面也不会爆了

但是放T3之前也没有元素特效

我现在就不知道我止步700层是不是元素的问题了

风雷防御面差别几乎可以忽略不计，区别没有那么明显的。要想通完 GF 就不要吝啬卷轴。
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post Jul 30 2022, 18:23
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400级jjc最后有点难打，debuff技能怎么选择啊，魔磁网，缓慢，虚弱，沉默，优先级怎么说


6 怪，需要放两轮，优先放冷却时间长的，魔磁网、沉默、虚弱，保险的打法就是第一层留女高敲 200 OC 进终层放两次龙吼，就能把需要的减益魔法都上齐了，这对法装不是特别好的情况尤其有用，到了 500 级竞技场法装好我也推荐用这个策略。
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post Jul 30 2022, 18:40
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QUOTE(イレイナ @ Jul 30 2022, 07:11) *

換了個頭像 但怎麼看都是舊的 奇怪了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


我当时愣了一下，我在想这个白发角色是谁。。感觉这个头像有些过于大众化了，不过说起来依蕾娜的立绘特征是
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新手剛玩了三日，把中文指引都看過一遍了目前沒遇上什麼大問題
但是在挑選裝備替換時因為數據太多有點困擾，請問有可以直接比對裝備數值的腳本嗎？

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你在玩x10的难度，基本上装备有一套能用就行不必太在意数值，
因为差距不是特别大。而且以你这个速度过两天你就200多级了，
有些垃圾基本只能卖掉。
脚本的话可以去看看hc br大佬的贴子，其他的脚本
Monsterbation
HV Utils
HV Crunk Juice


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post Jul 30 2022, 18:47
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QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Jul 30 2022, 18:13) *

风雷防御面差别几乎可以忽略不计，区别没有那么明显的。要想通完 GF 就不要吝啬卷轴。

w我3卷全嗑了，命卷没CD，800灵力感觉还能撑一次火花就没嗑SE

然后我就飞了
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post Jul 30 2022, 19:23
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入坑HV一个多月，现已转雷法两周...目前装备全是菊苣送+借的
熟练度上来一些后周六龙场1700+t比盾战体验好不少
杖子最初是原子狗店里买的雷毁柳（买完没几天店里不卖杖了）
Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction
5+4满强后用了几天拆了 换了根新杖重新IW满强...
Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction
走了些歪路（比如胡乱魂绑导致难IW），但在各位前辈的指导下总体来说挺顺畅...
目前正在蹲魔光（玩战法）/充能（玩法师）的雷装 现已凑齐3件（两件400级才能绑）
之后强化估计还得花费不少

以上就是这一个多月来的游戏体验...
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post Jul 30 2022, 19:30
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 30 2022, 20:03) *

我看了下那几个willow都是500级的，感觉得搞个能用的先用着。

不过那几个willow我都买得起，有没有推荐的？


夏娜菊苣想玩火法的话 建议去mo壕店里选一根火毁柳
有数百根低级传说法杖
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=259501

[282511535] Legendary Fiery Willow Staff of Destruction (Lv.253) (253, PXP 349, MDB 41%, Int 80%, Wis 98%, Fire EDB 93%, Elem Prof 88%, Depr Prof 2%, CR 87%, Burden 94%)
这根就尚可
然后IW可以找暗影店店长折扣5+4 我先前也是这么做的

EDIT：当然风雷毁柳更合适，因为柳木天生加风雷的EDB又有反抵抗。
但考虑到夏娜，估计会选择火法吧_(:3」∠)_

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post Jul 30 2022, 19:48
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QUOTE(SteAosen @ Jul 30 2022, 11:30) *

夏娜菊苣想玩火法的话 建议去mo壕店里选一根火毁柳
有数百根低级传说法杖
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=259501

[282511535] Legendary Fiery Willow Staff of Destruction (Lv.253) (253, PXP 349, MDB 41%, Int 80%, Wis 98%, Fire EDB 93%, Elem Prof 88%, Depr Prof 2%, CR 87%, Burden 94%)
这根就尚可
然后IW可以找暗影店店长折扣5+4 我先前也是这么做的


eric 好像不代打的样子，然后dark descent我有/
要是他代打的话我确实可以解放一下双手

火法不是很想转。我只收集火系太刀/胁差。

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顺便IA perk开完了以后卷轴还有存在的必要么。。都是同样的buff

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post Jul 30 2022, 19:55
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Jul 31 2022, 01:48) *

eric 好像不代打的样子，然后dark descent我有/
要是他代打的话我确实可以解放一下双手

火法不是很想转。我只收集火系太刀/胁差。

那建议转风雷法师 或者火战法也不错
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=246782
暗影店是这家 如果装备等级低可以找他
效率极高 第一根杖子5+4用了一小时 第二根5+4就两小时不到 也可能是店长运气好...
亲自IW有时候会很折磨 尤其是杖子5+4和装甲5+5这种
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post Jul 30 2022, 19:58
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顺便IA perk开完了以后卷轴还有存在的必要么。。都是同样的buff


卷轴的效果更好 外加不会耗MP（IA也持续耗MP）
转法后卷轴保命效果很棒 最初熟练度不够在普通场都是撕卷打的
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post Jul 30 2022, 20:23
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卷轴的效果更好 外加不会耗MP（IA也持续耗MP）
转法后卷轴保命效果很棒 最初熟练度不够在普通场都是撕卷打的


就是说卷轴的火花mpsp空了也能保命？
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post Jul 30 2022, 22:06
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菠萝更新信息的原楼层：
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6159779

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更新信息追加，翻译也追加：

(31.07.2022)

Minor update:

小型更新：

- Added a "Trade Log" tab that takes you directly to your own trading log. This is effectively the same screen as the one linked on the trading screen and can be navigated just like it.

添加了“交易记录”选项，该选项可以直接把你带到你自己的交易记录。该记录与交易界面使用同一个界面，点击
它就会把该界面引导到交易记录。

- "Market Log" was renamed "Account Log".

“市场记录”现在被重命名为“账户记录”。

- Clicking the "Stock" readout will now auto-fill the sell count field with the maximum sellable stock.

点击“库存”会自动在贩售数量的区域填入可出售的最大库存。

- Log pages now have selectable text.

记录页面现在拥有可选择的文本。

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post Jul 31 2022, 01:43
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就是说卷轴的火花mpsp空了也能保命？

命卷消耗的灵力比自己放的要少
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post Jul 31 2022, 03:07
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不知道該起手哪系法師呢

Nezu大的攻略是說冰/火起手比較便宜

但我身上有個M加速相位風帽(雖然素質挺垃圾的)
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282561869/e491b817c3

1m左右不知道能不能買到堪用的起手杖

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post Jul 31 2022, 03:31
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顺便IA perk开完了以后卷轴还有存在的必要么。。都是同样的buff

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Scrolls
只消耗25%基础灵力，可以多吃几次火花。

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1m左右不知道能不能買到堪用的起手杖

各项数值50%以下的杖会低于1m，比如322期的sta04，但都是500级的。400级杖比较少。
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post Jul 31 2022, 03:33
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不知道該起手哪系法師呢

Nezu大的攻略是說冰/火起手比較便宜

但我身上有個M加速相位風帽(雖然素質挺垃圾的)
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282561869/e491b817c3

1m左右不知道能不能買到堪用的起手杖


冰火确使便宜不少，但是因为Willow天生不带冰火EDB，所以用Willow会比风雷少一部分EDB
用Redwood会少10+反抵抗

1m是能买到能用的法杖的，330期S拍有根417级L风柳毁就拍了50k，完全能当起手杖，打完IW就能魂绑

当然这是因为没人竞价

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post Jul 31 2022, 03:51
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IW開局出了反抵抗和加速 結果之後狂歪...心累

如果拍到下一根杖一定要請人代打

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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271562223/f347070411

IW開局出了反抵抗和加速 結果之後狂歪...心累

ＩＷ机制纯纯的拼人品～～
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post Jul 31 2022, 03:54
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271562223/f347070411

IW開局出了反抵抗和加速 結果之後狂歪...心累

如果拍到下一根杖一定要請人代打

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) 啊这，还魂绑了，你这不就要双倍的魂片吗？太亏了
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post Jul 31 2022, 03:59
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不知道該起手哪系法師呢

Nezu大的攻略是說冰/火起手比較便宜

但我身上有個M加速相位風帽(雖然素質挺垃圾的)
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/282561869/e491b817c3

1m左右不知道能不能買到堪用的起手杖

能买到 不过低等级的蹲拍卖可能要挺久 高等级的魂绑也要多花1m左右的魂片
可以去WTS买一根 以前是原子狗 现在是mo 都是300级以下的L杖
壕不怎么在意这些（或者只是想帮助新人） 以往常拍卖价或者更低些都能买到
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