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post Sep 20 2014, 10:02
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Please support both! I know the temptation of dropping gifs for webs or vice-versa will tingle your scrotum in the future, but please support both. They're equally good and both have weaknesses: gifs are better at looping than webms and webms are smaller than gifs.
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post Sep 20 2014, 11:00
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I've been considering webm support, but I haven't had the time to investigate how to generate a thumbnail from it. It's not quite as straight-forward as you might think, since our current tool doesn't support it at all.
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post Sep 20 2014, 11:23
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Could use ffmpeg to output a frame from the video file.
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post Sep 20 2014, 14:57
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ffmpeg -i paizuri.webm -vframes 1 output.png

and, bam! We're done.

Waiting for it as it is one of a hell a feature.

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post Sep 20 2014, 15:04
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 20 2014, 09:00) *
I've been considering webm support

Full support? As in, with audio? Or just the thing 4chan does?
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post Sep 20 2014, 18:05
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QUOTE(Jitsu2 @ Sep 20 2014, 14:57) *
ffmpeg -i paizuri.webm -vframes 1 output.png


Aw, I don't want to install ffmpeg.

But I might.

Seems to be easy to strip any audio track as well.

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Full support? As in, with audio? Or just the thing 4chan does?


Would be video only.
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post Sep 20 2014, 18:34
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 20 2014, 09:05) *

Aw, I don't want to install ffmpeg.

Why? Did it come with Bing toolbar when I wasn't looking? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 20 2014, 19:38
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 21 2014, 02:05) *

Would be video only.

How about support for webm with audio in the forum?


You'd just have to set a new rule for posting full songs so you don't get DMCA's.
I'd love to post snippets of video like that.
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post Sep 20 2014, 21:54
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 20 2014, 11:05) *

Aw, I don't want to install ffmpeg.

But I might.

If you add ffmpeg to process webm, then next people will be asking for container support like mkv/mp4 to have full vids with audio/soft subs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 20 2014, 23:16
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Sep 20 2014, 18:34) *

Why? Did it come with Bing toolbar when I wasn't looking? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Naw, but it's not in the CentOS main repository nor in EPEL, so it's one of those things you have to compile yourself. Which is by no means difficult, it's just a chore to keep it updated.
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post Sep 21 2014, 00:18
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Is webm mature enough that there are no exploits?
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post Sep 21 2014, 00:35
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 20 2014, 14:16) *

but it's not in the CentOS main repository nor in EPEL

You don't use RPM Fusion? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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Is webm mature enough that there are no exploits?

The last time there was for for an old version of Chrome. Cutting out audio prevents the biggest issues otherwise.
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post Sep 21 2014, 01:18
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 20 2014, 22:16) *
Naw, but it's not in the CentOS main repository nor in EPEL, so it's one of those things you have to compile yourself. Which is by no means difficult, it's just a chore to keep it updated.

It's available from [atrpms.net] atrpms. atrpms is beating EPEL for some stuff these days.
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post Sep 22 2014, 15:04
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I've never seen or heard of this webm y'all speak of.

*googles*

Oh.. What does that have to do with this site though? Is this thread about posting them in galleries or embedding videos on the forum?
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post Sep 22 2014, 16:19
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It's for galleries.
Some sites (4chan) pushing it as replacements for GIFs.
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post Sep 26 2014, 23:43
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@Tenboro Just a quick note from my side. Not all repos have a full fledged FFMpeg with all the features you can get.

In some cases, they can ship it *without* actual support for WEBM, since it's compilation time feature flag controller, so a manual compilation from sources is needed.
On the good side, since only WEBM is needed FFMPEG can be stripped off all the other features which means less dependencies, small footprint, and the shiet.

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post Sep 30 2014, 11:49
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What would the webums be of, movies, ovas?
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post Oct 3 2014, 19:35
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Hmm, after fiddling with webp all day in Windows, I tried out libwebp 0.4.1... but alas, Debian was stuck with the GLIBC 2.13, with the later versions available only in experimental repos
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# sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main

Only needs the libc6 instead of full upgrade to experimental packages.
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# sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -t experimental install libc6-dev

Be sure to remove the experimental repos and run apt-get update afterwards (especially if you run something like unattended upgrades or otherwise auto-updates your server)

QUOTE(Acecobe @ Sep 30 2014, 17:49) *
What would the webums be of, movies, ovas?
Animated pictures, seeing that webm support would be vid only.
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post Oct 10 2014, 04:23
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Just want to mention the potential problems with webm's, it was discussed before here:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3155145

Even with length and sound restrictions, copyright holders might getting irritated anyway since the whole hentai will be very easily cut into loops and then bulk compressed into webm and gallery spammed. Whereas right now they haven't clamped down too heavily despite large cumbersome gifs of their work all over the place from what I can tell.

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Oh yea this is a bandwidth saver and all the rage at reddit porn subreddits.

[gfycat.com] http://gfycat.com/about

Don't think it will be useful here though, but just mentioning it anyway.

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post Oct 10 2014, 05:43
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If everyone implements a more efficient codec, they will have a harder time "clamping down".
Not allowing sound because it might lead to DMCAs is ridiculous, it's like not allowing still images for the same reason.
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