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post Dec 28 2011, 22:34
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Dec 28 2011, 14:17) *

Bad luck. I got like one this month.


I guess. I was wondering if there was some other condition that had to be met.

For the record I don't get much love in the way of drops overall. It is rare to get an artifact (anything more then 1 per week is extraordinary), none of my armor is above 'average' grade, and I don't even have an etheral weapon.

Come to think of it, even my monsters seem to jip me on their gifts (most of the time it is low or mid grade wood or leather... never once gotten anything like a shade fragment)

I remember way back for easter there was that egg thing, and you had to play different playmodes for the various letters.

Since I almost exclusively play arenas... I thought I would play some grindfest today and see if that was the problem.

After roughly 200 rounds of absolutely nothing dropping... no ponies, no gear, no artifacts, no tokens, and a weak amount of crystals (and soaking up a bunch of stamina in the process since Im melee) I said screw it.

Sounds like complaining, but for the amount of time I put in to this game the return has not been satisfactory. And with the new patch I've had to tone back my difficulty level (melee player) so now even the leveling is slower.

Good thing this game is free or people would really have a reason to be upset lol.
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post Dec 28 2011, 22:48
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Dec 28 2011, 14:20) *

Because they're super insanely rare. The only reason anyone has a full set is because they bought them from other people


That does not sound right.

If they are "super insanely rare" then how are the "other people" getting the collectibles in enough surplus quantity to sell them off?

Also, to make a collection that requires 21 components to complete "super insanely rare" not only seems silly from a design standpoint, it would also make the the thought of completion utterly out of the question for the average player. I think Tenb is smarter then to do something like that.

Usually a "collection" type system in a game has less rare components, so even noobs can get a taste and feel like they are in on the game. Like in old trading cards... you have your commons, your uncommons, and your rares.

I know that I am not the only player here that has not gotten a single one, and I play this game more then enough to expect to see at least one.

I'm going to stick with the "bad luck" theory because any other explanation is going to reflect poorly on the design of the system.

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post Dec 28 2011, 22:49
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Some people have been getting many of them dropped. I received half of mine from one single player.
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Currently Archaeologist 8, Scavenger 36.

I only got 2 myself.
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post Dec 28 2011, 22:56
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Dec 28 2011, 14:49) *

Some people have been getting many of them dropped. I received half of mine from one single player.
I asked about his Trainings:

I only got 2 myself.


And what are your trainings at?
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post Dec 28 2011, 23:02
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QUOTE(LoneUnknown @ Dec 28 2011, 21:56) *

And what are your trainings at?

28 and 6.
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post Dec 28 2011, 23:04
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Dec 28 2011, 15:02) *

28 and 6.


Similar to my own.

Do you remember what game mode you got them in?
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post Dec 28 2011, 23:05
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Only found 2 so far myself (pets fluttershy), tho ive been cutting back on playtime
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post Dec 28 2011, 23:17
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QUOTE(LoneUnknown @ Dec 28 2011, 22:04) *

Similar to my own.

Do you remember what game mode you got them in?

No idea. It was right after ponies got added to the loot table.
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post Dec 29 2011, 00:12
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I've got seven spares right now and that's not counting the ones I sold/traded. I think I've actually picked almost all of them up at one point and since traded away some of my spares once I completed the set.
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post Dec 29 2011, 00:29
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QUOTE(LoneUnknown @ Dec 28 2011, 21:04) *

Similar to my own.

Do you remember what game mode you got them in?


It shouldn't be what mode you play, It should be how many rounds you clear a day. Clearing +5000 rounds a way wasn't any big deal. The more rounds is more monsters that can drop something.

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Warning: Reached equipment inventory limit (1000). Generated item instead.


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post Dec 29 2011, 00:55
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 28 2011, 16:29) *

It shouldn't be what mode you play, It should be how many rounds you clear a day. Clearing +5000 rounds a way wasn't any big deal. The more rounds is more monsters that can drop something.

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+5000 rounds a day isn't a big deal?

I mean there is a very limited real world resource called time which isn't exactly limitless in terms of the lives we live.

Or is maging just that much more speedy in results?

(or did you mean +500 instead of +5000 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) )
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:03
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I'm a second-rate mage and I can do 5 rounds a minute with H@H going.
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:05
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QUOTE(derpymal @ Dec 28 2011, 15:03) *

I'm a second-rate mage and I can do 5 rounds a minute with H@H going.

What about stamina. Do you have that many energy drinks?
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:06
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I have enough to even sell a few.

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Actually, I take a loss when I sell my drinks. I can make more credits using the Great bonus than I do from selling the drinks. I just don't want to take the time to actually do the rounds.

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post Dec 29 2011, 01:14
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QUOTE(derpymal @ Dec 28 2011, 17:03) *

I'm a second-rate mage and I can do 5 rounds a minute with H@H going.



That is good information.

So 5 rounds per minute=5000 rounds per 1000 minutes

Are there people that really play this game over 8 hours a day?

If the rewards in this game are statistically slated toward that kind of time investment, count me out now.

(and anyone playing hentaiverse 8+ hours a day might want to re-evaluate what they do with their time IMHO)
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:16
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The people who can do a lot of rounds are actually way more efficient than I am. I also tend to do other things while I HV, like work.
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:20
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Dec 28 2011, 06:48) *

As a melee on normal your mana is best spent on nerf. It makes them die a little faster.


QUOTE(dcherry @ Dec 28 2011, 10:04) *

What about weaken? I thought that lowers defense? Why not spirit mode? Wouldn't it be in your best interest to use as *many* potions as possible if that'll speed the process up? And, have you tried bleed?


My current experiences with End of Days are as follows after trying out a few things:

Weaken
With Spirit Mode: Schoolgirls die must faster, but often not fast enough to stop them from using their Spirit Attack, which usually drains the maximum amount of Spirit Points possible. That, along with the SP drain from Spirit Mode leads to extremely fast SP drain. I carry no Spirit Potions, so this leads to me casting Silence instead.
Without Spirit Mode: They die faster, but almost always not fast enough to prevent a Spirit Attack. No SP drain because of no Spirit Mode, but losing a large chunk of SP every few rounds still leads to me casting Silence instead. Iris Strike is used when Overcharge is full.
Final Impression: Low on MP cost. Extremely high on SP cost. Saves some time.

Silence
With Spirit Mode: Silence allows me to use Spirit Mode as freely as possible, but due to Overcharge being drained at a rate faster than it's being generated, it has its limits. Additionally, the sheer number of rounds and HP of the schoolgirls means I can't use Spirit Mode right off the bat, since I'd soon run out of SP and be stuck with regular nerfed damage for the later rounds. Spirit Shield can't be left out of Innate Arcana in place of something else, but all other spells have a cost greater than my MP regen.
Without Spirit Mode: I'm freely able to use my Iris Strike, but I ultimately don't. Why? Blind cancels out Silence. This means I have to maximize damage by giving it the Stun and PA proc and hope that it's enough to kill it. Otherwise I am vulnerable to a Spirit Attack that'll kill me should I not have Spirit Shield on through Innate Arcana.
Final Impression: High on MP cost (since Silence costs much more than Weaken). High/Low on SP cost depending on if Spirit Mode is on or off. Slowest but safest.

I'll try out Nerf when the arena's reset, but given its cost is even greater than Silence, and I'm still vulnerable to Spirit Attacks, I'm not holding my breath for anything noticeable.

I've thought about using a Bleed weapon, but I'm not sure if it's worth the loss of my rapier's PA and parry bonus. That, and I don't have an Ethereal one. Also, I'm trying to conserve potions as of this latest patch, and I generally use the amount of potions I use as a gauge of how well I'm doing in an arena.
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post Dec 29 2011, 01:21
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QUOTE(derpymal @ Dec 28 2011, 17:16) *

The people who can do a lot of rounds are actually way more efficient than I am. I also tend to do other things while I HV, like work.


How does one do 'work' while playing any video game?

Certainly not any sort of physical labor.

Not any sort of service job ("yes sir, just one moment, just got channeling proc and need to stack my spells")

Even computer/deskwork requires interaction from from your mouse/keyboard/concentration, impossible to do while one hand is clicking on monsters.

So unless people are running automated programs to fight for them (which is becoming more appealing now that I think of it) there is no way you can work and play this game at the same time.

If you are playing while AT work, then you are not working.

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post Dec 29 2011, 01:30
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QUOTE(LoneUnknown @ Dec 29 2011, 00:14) *
If the rewards in this game are statistically slated toward that kind of time investment, count me out now.

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post Dec 29 2011, 01:32
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Dec 28 2011, 17:30) *

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