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post Apr 18 2022, 09:39
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Tenboro

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We have been discussing adding a new expunge reason targeting works that have been intentionally defaced or degraded by the uploader or someone else in the chain. This was primarily triggered by recent galleries that had ads injected into the content, but it is also intended to address other undesirable behavior that results in content no one really wants.

Previously, expunging such galleries might have made them unlisted and undiscoverable, but after the last expunge and upload system revamps, expunged galleries can only be disowned, not deleted/unlisted, which makes this change feasible.

There are currently two competing definition for this expunge reason:

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Content has been defaced by adding content-obstructing scanmarks, censorship or advertisements beyond what is present in the original artist release. (Scanmarks that do not obstruct content or promotional pages added after the content pages do not qualify.)"

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"Content has been defaced by adding content-obstructing scanmarks, censorship or advertisements beyond what is present in the original artist release, or has been intentionally downsampled to the point where legibility is an issue. (Scanmarks that do not obstruct content or promotional pages added after the content pages do not qualify. Older low-resolution scans are exempt.)"


I'm leaning towards the former, simply because the threshold for "images for ants" will always be subjective and cannot be defined in hard numbers, but obviously, it will also make it not address some undesirable behavior.

I'd primarily want feedback on whether you think the "intentionally downsampled" clause will cause more problems than it solves, but feel free to discuss the addition in general as well.
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Tenboro   New Expunge Reason: Defaced   Apr 18 2022, 09:39
Mags_   So low quality cgc uploads?   Apr 18 2022, 09:44
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Mags_' post='6104981' date='Apr 18 20...   Apr 18 2022, 09:47
Mags_   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6104982' date='...   Apr 18 2022, 09:48
PrincessKaguya   Note that this also covers galleries such as these...   Apr 18 2022, 09:53
Mags_   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6104986' date='...   Apr 18 2022, 10:06
Miles Edgeworth   I vote for first option, "intentionally downs...   Apr 18 2022, 10:27
Cipher-kun   I think intentionally downsampled is easy enough t...   Apr 18 2022, 11:21
PrincessKaguya   The issue with objectively defined criteria is tha...   Apr 18 2022, 11:27
Cipher-kun   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6105039' date='...   Apr 18 2022, 11:32
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Cipher-kun' post='6105042' date=...   Apr 18 2022, 11:47
Mags_   What about some of those racial/palette swapped ed...   Apr 18 2022, 11:52
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Mags_' post='6105051' date='Apr 18 20...   Apr 18 2022, 12:00
nasu   We already have a clause which stops people from m...   Apr 18 2022, 14:32
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='nasu' post='6105120' date='Apr 18 202...   Apr 18 2022, 14:37
Shank   [quote name='Cipher-kun' post='6105034' date=...   Apr 18 2022, 15:44
Glovelove.   I support the first. 2nd one would just be used t...   Apr 18 2022, 18:35
Shank   If it isn't so bad that it's extremely dif...   Apr 18 2022, 18:47
Glovelove.   [quote name='Shank' post='6105237' date='Apr 18 20...   Apr 18 2022, 19:18
Shank   What does this have to do with mtl/rough translati...   Apr 18 2022, 19:20
Glovelove.   [quote name='Shank' post='6105254' date='Apr 18 20...   Apr 18 2022, 19:21
Shank   I can't imagine this effecting translations mu...   Apr 18 2022, 19:23
PrincessKaguya   Option 2 could be feasible because expunge tracker...   Apr 18 2022, 19:25
Glovelove.   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6105259' date='...   Apr 18 2022, 19:28
Shank   [quote name='Glovelove.' post='6105262' date='Apr ...   Apr 18 2022, 19:31
Tenboro   Just FWIW, it is of course possible to switch it l...   Apr 18 2022, 20:07
PrincessKaguya   Tbh, at this moment, it's kinda difficult for ...   Apr 18 2022, 20:25
Cipher-kun   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6105310' date='...   Apr 19 2022, 06:14
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Cipher-kun' post='6105584' date=...   Apr 19 2022, 10:05
Tenboro   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6105684' date='...   Apr 19 2022, 10:19
Glovelove.   Yeah, subjectivity goes both ways, we'll just ...   Apr 18 2022, 20:26
romanicyte   Option 1 is a good addition. Option 2 is an extens...   Apr 18 2022, 23:28
Lewdovico   Option 2 suffers from the same problem of providin...   Apr 19 2022, 02:14
Noni   option 2 may put a bit more strain on the moderati...   Apr 19 2022, 07:42
Tenboro   I'm fine switching the wording from "down...   Apr 19 2022, 09:10
Scumbini   While it wouldn't prevent all attempted abuse ...   Apr 19 2022, 10:35
Mags_   I think providing hard numbers is a bad idea. Thi...   Apr 19 2022, 11:10
Theonik   With the new expunge type, do the existing rules a...   Apr 19 2022, 21:40
Shank   [quote name='Theonik' post='6105999' date='Apr 19 ...   Apr 20 2022, 01:53
Theonik   [quote name='Shank' post='6106083' date='Apr 20 20...   Apr 20 2022, 05:25
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Theonik' post='6105999' date='Apr 19 ...   Apr 20 2022, 07:16
Scumbini   I have a concern I thought of earlier, given that ...   Apr 20 2022, 13:42
PrincessKaguya   If the expunge tracker can filter petitions by typ...   Apr 20 2022, 14:01
Miles Edgeworth   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6106434' date='...   Apr 20 2022, 14:34
Cipher-kun   Is this type of expunge only for works going forwa...   Apr 21 2022, 14:11
Tenboro   So if we were going forwards with alternative #2 a...   Apr 21 2022, 15:52
nasu   [quote name='Tenboro' post='6107001' date='Apr 21 ...   Apr 21 2022, 16:06
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Cipher-kun' post='6106954' date=...   Apr 21 2022, 16:48
Cipher-kun   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6107022' date='...   Apr 22 2022, 15:34
Glovelove.   25 is high if 15 was considered sufficient the las...   Apr 21 2022, 19:32
Shank   Expunges have much more weight than tags, since th...   Apr 21 2022, 19:52
Theonik   [quote name='Shank' post='6107087' date='Apr 21 20...   Apr 22 2022, 02:33
Glovelove.   Fair enough, not sure if escalating is really the ...   Apr 21 2022, 20:09
Glovelove.   Would seem this thread has already made waves, CGC...   Apr 22 2022, 02:31
PrincessKaguya   My concern is that we don't really know how we...   Apr 22 2022, 03:39
romanicyte   I don't like making a MP requirement for this ...   Apr 22 2022, 03:18
Glovelove.   Gonna be blunt, there's only so much MP you ga...   Apr 22 2022, 03:40
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Glovelove.' post='6107221' date='Apr ...   Apr 22 2022, 03:49
romanicyte   To be completely honest, I have 21 mod power now, ...   Apr 22 2022, 03:53
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='romanicyte' post='6107233' date='Apr ...   Apr 22 2022, 04:06
Theonik   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6107220' date='...   Apr 22 2022, 04:39
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Theonik' post='6107256' date='Apr 22 ...   Apr 22 2022, 04:53
Theonik   [quote name='PrincessKaguya' post='6107263' date='...   Apr 22 2022, 05:50
Glovelove.   [quote name='Theonik' post='6107297' date='Apr 22 ...   Apr 22 2022, 06:15
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Glovelove.' post='6107312' date='Apr ...   Apr 22 2022, 06:19
romanicyte   [quote name='Theonik' post='6107256' date='Apr 21 ...   Apr 22 2022, 05:00
PrincessKaguya   [quote name='Theonik' post='6107297' date='Apr 22 ...   Apr 22 2022, 06:07
Glovelove.   Given the initial cleanup will probably mostly foc...   Apr 22 2022, 06:31
Theonik   In terms of the backlog I wonder if considering ho...   Apr 22 2022, 15:03
Shank   It's awkward if not impossible to automate. Ca...   Apr 22 2022, 15:18
Theonik   [quote name='Shank' post='6107593' date='Apr 22 20...   Apr 22 2022, 17:01
Shank   If it's a multiple of 1000, then any wrong one...   Apr 22 2022, 17:03
Glovelove.   [quote name='Shank' post='6107652' date='Apr 22 20...   Apr 22 2022, 17:41
Theonik   [quote name='Shank' post='6107652' date='Apr 22 20...   Apr 22 2022, 17:46
CoCo1909   omg, i can't express how happy I am seeing thi...   Apr 22 2022, 17:22
Shank   [quote name='CoCo1909' post='6107663' date='Apr 22...   Apr 22 2022, 18:02
Glovelove.   I think the solution will also depend on what tenb...   Apr 22 2022, 19:31
Mrsuperhappy   As far as any MP requirement, higher is better. If...   Apr 22 2022, 19:40
Jigsy   I'm glad for this. Though the person who it...   Apr 22 2022, 21:10
lurphysmaw   I was wondering why a Certain Gallery Creator had ...   Apr 22 2022, 23:08
romanicyte   [quote name='lurphysmaw' post='6107932' date='Apr ...   Apr 22 2022, 23:15
sleazeball   Can't you just ban cgc?   Apr 22 2022, 23:39
Scumbini   [quote name='Jigsy' post='6107756' date='Apr 22 20...   Apr 23 2022, 00:22
Jigsy   [quote name='Scumbini' post='6107961' date='Apr 22...   Apr 23 2022, 01:00
sleazeball   [quote name='Scumbini' post='6107961' date='Apr 22...   Apr 23 2022, 01:29
meow_pao   [quote name='sleazeball' post='6107994' date='Apr ...   Apr 23 2022, 04:50
EsotericSatire   oh this is real. Nice idea.   Apr 23 2022, 04:47
dragontamer8740   Seriously, this is fantastic. Thank you. I'd b...   Apr 23 2022, 18:19
Tenboro   Alright, thanks for the feedback. Unless someone a...   Apr 25 2022, 13:00
romanicyte   So the mod power requirement is only to start a pe...   Apr 25 2022, 18:56
Tenboro   [quote name='romanicyte' post='6109581' date='Apr ...   Apr 25 2022, 20:45
Glovelove.   Think the exemption for older low resolution stuff...   Apr 26 2022, 19:45
Jigsy   Thinking back on it, I uploaded a pixiv gallery a ...   Apr 26 2022, 21:30
romanicyte   [quote name='Jigsy' post='6110128' date='Apr 26 20...   Apr 26 2022, 21:45
Glovelove.   [quote name='romanicyte' post='6110130' date='Apr ...   Apr 26 2022, 22:20
Cipher-kun   [quote name='Glovelove.' post='6110145' date='Apr ...   Apr 27 2022, 02:48
Glovelove.   [quote name='Cipher-kun' post='6110224' date=...   Apr 27 2022, 20:50
romanicyte   [quote name='Glovelove.' post='6110627' date='Apr ...   Apr 27 2022, 22:35
Tenboro   This has now been added.   Apr 28 2022, 09:13


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