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post Dec 2 2010, 20:32
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7/18/11 (Version 1.3) Update:


Download:
- You can get it: [www.starfleetplatoon.com] Here

Changelog:
- Version 1.3:
- Added new formulas to calculate the EXP required to level up and for leveling a primary attribute.
- Max level has been increased from 300 to 999.
- Max stats have been increased from 360 to 999.


Notes on usage:
- You can only simulate a character up to level 999 (max level).
- Max stat you can simulate up to is 999 (max?).
- If you accidentally type out of those boundaries, it will automatically adjust to the min or max values accordingly.
- When you use up more EXP than is available, it will be shown as negative.


In progress:
- Add a GUI.
- Add an algorithm to predict higher unknown values above the known set of data.
- Implement an Archaeologist training evaluator. - Not sure if this is even useful so I'll cross it out for now.
- Need a better host. Anyone know a good host besides Megaupload?
- A new icon for the simulator. I think people are bored of seeing the same old piece of sushi. If you are good with art and would like to help make an icon for the simulator, then post here or send me a PM.

Special thanks to:
- Tenboro for creating the never-ending time sink known as Hentaiverse.
- Sonic for his generosity in allocating some of his bandwidth for my mediocre application.
- Random people that I've stolen data from in various threads.
- Everyone else that has provided useful input.


As always, suggestions and comments are welcomed.


An example of how the character simulator is used:
(IMG:[img543.imageshack.us] http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4548/charsimulation71811.jpg)

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post Dec 2 2010, 21:40
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There are lots of values posted in this thread. No one has yet worked out the formula, AFAIK.
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post Dec 2 2010, 21:43
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i don't do balanced stats...

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post Dec 2 2010, 22:08
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Dec 2 2010, 21:40) *

There are lots of values posted in this thread. No one has yet worked out the formula, AFAIK.

Thanks Sayo, I'll read that thread once I get home. I skimmed through it and there's lots of useful data in it. By the way, how did you find threads that are more than a year old? There are only 2 pages of threads in the HV system discussion section and the thread you linked is not listed there.
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post Dec 2 2010, 22:58
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This post and the one after it have pics of my char screen from level 151 to 255, you can get some numbers off that I'd guess.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=873314
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post Dec 2 2010, 23:16
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Already saw that. To be precise, most of my 200 level stats that I have was gotten from you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 3 2010, 00:13
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I've been using a spreadsheet myself to try to predict this very thing. Here are the numbers I have:

0 4
1 8
2 14
3 21
4 31
5 41
6 54
7 68
8 83
9 101
10 120
11 141
12 164
13 189
14 216
15 245
16 277
17 310
18 346
19 384
20 425
21 468
22 514
23 562
24 614
25 668
26 725
27 786
28 849
29 916
30 987
31 1061
32 1138
33 1220
34 1305
35 1395
36 1489
37 1587
38 1690
39 1798
40 1910
41 2028
42 2150
43 2279
44 2412
45 2552
46 2698
47 2849
48 3008
49 3173
50 3344
51 3524
52 3710
53 3904
54 4106
55 4316
56 4535
57 4762
58 4999
59 5245
60 5501
61 5767
62 6043
63 6330
64 6628
65 6938
66 7260
67 7594
68 7941
69 8302
70 8676
71 9064
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73 9885
74 10319
75 10769
76 11236
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78 12223
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80 13284
81 13845
82 14426
83 15028
84 15653
85 16300
86 16971
87 17667
88 18388
89 19135
90 19910
91 20712
92 21544
93 22405
94 23298
95 24223
96 25181
97 26173
98 27202
99 28267
100 29370
101 30512
102 31696
103 32921
104 34191
105 35505
106 36867
107 38276
108 39736
109 41248
110 42813
111 44433
112 46111
113 47849
114 49647
115 51510
116 53438
117 55434
118 57500
119 59640
120 61855
121 64147
122 66521
123 68978
124 71521
125 74154
126 76880
127 79701
128 82621
129 85644
130 88773
131 92012
132 95365
133 98835
134 102427
135 106145
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137 113977
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140 126786
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161 265364
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post Dec 3 2010, 00:27
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Derp.
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6th order polynomial, still not quite accurate. Might need a higher order or a different method of linear regression. I've looked at analyzing other relationships, such as the difference between levels and the amount of XP to level up. The formula could be using more than one variable, which would definitely throw a wrench in the gears.
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post Dec 3 2010, 00:35
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It's very likely to have more than one variable. I doubt TB would fool around with only one variable and make a 51 character expression out of that.

Edit:
On second thought, it should only have one variable. I forgot he only passed in one variable in his function.

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post Dec 3 2010, 18:53
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 2 2010, 20:08) *

By the way, how did you find threads that are more than a year old? There are only 2 pages of threads in the HV system discussion section and the thread you linked is not listed there.

I found the thread by using the forums search. Since I already knew it existed, all I had to do was remember roughly what was in the title. But if you want to list threads older than a certain forum's cutoff date, just change the option at the bottom of the page from "From: 90 days" (or whatever) to "Show all".

QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 2 2010, 22:27) *

6th order polynomial, still not quite accurate. Might need a higher order or a different method of linear regression.

I suspect it uses an exponential function (or functions), though I have no idea how to analyse it.
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QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 2 2010, 16:27) *

Derp.
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6th order polynomial, still not quite accurate. Might need a higher order or a different method of linear regression. I've looked at analyzing other relationships, such as the difference between levels and the amount of XP to level up. The formula could be using more than one variable, which would definitely throw a wrench in the gears.

If that's the case, you're not likely to figure it out without getting the function directly from Tenboro. I'm willing to bet it's single variable but there are hidden decimal places throwing off the regression. At any rate, 0.999 is plenty good enough to approximate the actual progression, unless you're really hellbent on getting the exact numbers.

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what software are you guys using to figure out the equation?
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post Dec 3 2010, 23:32
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Dec 3 2010, 21:39) *

what software are you guys using to figure out the equation?

My hand and my calculator, nothing too fancy.

QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 3 2010, 00:27) *

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Does that equation correspond to the graph? Plugged in some numbers and the results are planets apart from the actual data.

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post Dec 3 2010, 23:38
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The equation would be the line, and the points would be the empirical data.
QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Dec 3 2010, 13:39) *

what software are you guys using to figure out the equation?

Pretty much any spreadsheet or database software can be used to make that trendline in about 2 minutes.
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post Dec 4 2010, 00:12
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 3 2010, 23:38) *

The equation would be the line, and the points would be the empirical data.

Taking y to be the exp required for the next level and x to be the level, his equation y = -0.001x + 0.259x^2 -31.94x^3 + 1751x^2 - 32242x + 4 doesn't give anything close to the actual data, assuming he's using miwabe's data.
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post Dec 4 2010, 00:18
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That's just an Excel graph that I plotted a trendline to. I've got MATLAB on my laptop, but I need to reread my notes on linear regression. The "basic" linreg function doesn't give me anything better than what Excel gave me, so I need to do the more involved analysis using advanced methods, and I don't remember them because I don't use them often (I mostly use the matrix and linear algebra functions for modeling and controls problems).

Right now, I'm thinking the formula might use the value from the previous level, and then it does some voodoo with the difference.

QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 3 2010, 17:12) *

Taking y to be the exp required for the next level and x to be the level, his equation y = -0.001x + 0.259x^2 -31.94x^3 + 1751x^2 - 32242x + 4 doesn't give anything close to the actual data, assuming he's using miwabe's data.

I'm not, I'm using my data that I've gathered. And its not accurate for all values. If you know what the graphs of polynomials look like, then there are going to be areas on the curve where the line isn't going to match up with the actual data. There'll be places where its really close, and there are places where its not.

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MATLAB is the bane of my school life right now. I have to do almost everything on it. Lately it's been coding basic CFD and FEM methods. Thankfully most of it is simple enough to use MATLAB, which is good since MATLAB is slow as hell. I've got my own pirated copy too of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 4 2010, 00:18) *

I'm not, I'm using my data that I've gathered. And its not accurate for all values. If you know what the graphs of polynomials look like, then there are going to be areas on the curve where the line isn't going to match up with the actual data. There'll be places where its really close, and there are places where its not.

Can you double check your equation? Accuracy is not even the right term here, the results are off the charts. For 160, your equation returns -26278716 and 260 returns -455962516. Either your equation is wrong or I made a huge mathematical error.
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That is odd. Sometimes Excel does stupid things to the trendline equation if you mess with the graph settings (in that case, that's the equation for a fifth order poly). I refreshed the equation and that gives a similar answer. When I used it before, it was close, so something got broken somewhere since. I'll have to look at it.
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Just an update on this project.

No, I've not forgotten about it, just that I was too busy/lazy doing various things. I'm still googling tutorials on how to make an actual executable since my programming knowledge is very limited. I'll resume working on it after Christmas.

It also seems like Miwabe is hard at work, being the only one that remembers this thread, updating and providing all that useful data. Just a quick question, what happened to the numbers that had ?? on them that you weren't sure about? Is your current list accurate for every number? I'm asking because I remember a few numbers that had a ? on them, such as 291.

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That is odd. Sometimes Excel does stupid things to the trendline equation if you mess with the graph settings (in that case, that's the equation for a fifth order poly). I refreshed the equation and that gives a similar answer. When I used it before, it was close, so something got broken somewhere since. I'll have to look at it.

Have you found out what was causing the Excel issue? If so, do you have a new trendline equation?

If things go as planned and I come home early enough tomorrow from the family outing, I might be able to release this as a Christmas gift, but don't hold me on that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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