Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

4 Pages V  1 2 3 > »   
Closed TopicStart new topic
> Cheating the HV!

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:17
Post #1
Ichy



~ Loli Trainer ~
***********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,061
Joined: 19-February 09
Level 500 (Dovahkiin)


First of all, I was allowed this Rant of a certain someone. He wanted to post it himself but then he did not felt like it!
Also names edited so you won't find out his true identity!

QUOTE(some anonymous Prince)
I was hoping to make a quite and dignified exit this time, but it seems Tenboro won't be happy until I've made a scene, so I will.

I've been cheating the entire time!

I've never played the game and was cheating with both this account and my Fritzl account! Tenboro is well aware of this but for some reason never banned me. I expected to be banned when I started running 24/7 after he removed the round limit in 0.5.2, but despite my patently inhuman playing patterns I was never banned. Even if running 24/7 didn't make it abundantly clear I was cheating, Sushi posted on the forum multiple times saying I was cheating (Sushi's a blabbermouth!). There's no way Tenboro didn't know, yet he did nothing.

It's apparent that a lot of other players are cheating as well. The players who reach level 300 in a week, the players who can generate inhuman quantities of items, the high-profile forum participants who appear to be able to do the impossible - I very much doubt they're achieving these things manually. But even when it's obvious somebody is cheating Tenboro does nothing about it. Bizarrely, he takes auto-bidding on the hath auctions very seriously, with many players being banned for that, but nobody ever gets banned for cheating in game, even when it's obvious that they are.

Rather than ban/punish cheaters Tenboro takes the rather strange step of punishing the legitimate players. The first way legitimate players are punished is with the Riddlemaster. Mazes are pointlessly simple so solve automatically but are a real nuisance to solve manually, so they cause no problems for cheaters but represent a massive annoyance for legitimate players. Tenboro is well aware of this, yet he continues to punish the legitimate players by leaving mazes in the game. The ponies are considerably better, but still fail to stop cheating while successfully pissing of a lot of people. Really, the whole Riddlemaster idea needs scrapping as there are far more effective at preventing cheating without inconveniencing legitimate players.

I can't help but note Tenboro's hypocrisy in using the Riddlemaster. He rails against commercial software companies for their use of DRM and other restrictions that punish legitimate users, yet me himself is operating a cheat protection system which has all the attributes of DRM:

Like DRM the Riddlemaster largely fails to achieve its intended goal.
Like DRM the Riddlemaster inconveniences legitimate users while causing relatively few problems for cheaters.
Like DRM the Riddlemaster results in false positives, with players losing stamina despite the fact they're not cheating.

It's ridiculous to criticise commercial companies for their use of mechanisms that restrict and punish legitimate users and then go on to do the exact same thing yourself.

Another way in which Tenboro punishes legitimate players is that he actively designs the game around the cheaters. If he sees cheaters getting too many artefacts/credits/crystals/items/shards/whatever he nerfs the game for everyone. When he's deciding the cost of a particular upgrade/training/whatever he seems to look at what the cheaters are capable of getting and then chooses a price based on that. It's the people who aren't cheating that suffer most from this. Their meagre income is cut further when he nerfs things for the cheaters, and the chance of legitimate players achieving anything is reduced when he sets prices that are completely out of their reach.

Tenboro has admitted himself that he makes design decisions purely to piss me off, but in many cases this lead to other players suffering more. Instead of designing the game around the cheaters and punishing the legitimate players, why not ban the cheaters and design the game around the legitimate players?

Despite knowing I was cheating Tenboro didn't appear to want me to quit. I thought he'd be happy to see me retire when I deleted my witches the first time, but instead he took action that stopped me retiring. On the day of the 0.76 patch I sent him a PM politely asking him to disable Eila so I could retire, but rather than do that he replied saying, "Eh, you'll be back". Why does he want me to come back if he knows I'm cheating? Not only is he failing to ban people who are cheating, he's actively encouraging them to continue.

I've often said nothing Tenboro does makes any sense, but the way in which he handles cheating is particularly nonsensical:

1) Why isn't he banning players who he knows are cheating?
2) Why is he continuing to use the Riddlemaster when the whole system is ineffective, and the mazes in particular are totally useless while being very annoying for legitimate players?
3) Why is he designing the game around the players who are cheating and thus making it very hard for the players who aren't cheating?
4) Why is he encouraging people who he knows are cheating to continue playing?

The whole way in which Tenboro handles cheating is an outrage and he should be ashamed of himself! I, on the other hand, am totally innocent! In fact, I'm a victim of the whole situation and should be compensated with free upgrades to Eila and free wins/kills (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I find this worth a laugh or 2 so here it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:25
Post #2
Bunker Buster



Just a man who likes getting his dick wet
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,220
Joined: 11-June 10
Level 346 (Godslayer)


*not actually cheating
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:25
Post #3
danixxx



Currently exhausted
*********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,340
Joined: 3-September 10
Level 500 (Godslayer)


QUOTE
I've been cheating the entire time!

QUOTE
I, on the other hand, am totally innocent!


So Frith-like ...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:29
Post #4
ChosenUno



A Legendary Collector
********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,170
Joined: 23-February 10
Level 422 (Godslayer)


That's hilarious (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And I think there are players who have been banned for "cheating" before.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:29
Post #5
elda88



Simpang Bekenu is trash
***********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 15,722
Joined: 30-June 09
Level 500 (Godslayer)


He just hates Riddlemaster badly.

Revealing his true identity is bad, why?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:34
Post #6
nobody_xxx



((´☻ω☻`) $◞౪◟$ (´☻ω☻`))
***********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10
Level 496 (Godslayer)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:38
Post #7
buktore



Skeleton Soldier
********
Group: Members
Posts: 4,352
Joined: 9-September 09
Level 411 (Dovahkiin)


(IMG:https://forums.e-hentai.org/uploads/post-200030-1329474146.jpg)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:44
Post #8
watisthis



Active Poster
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 1,310
Joined: 20-April 10
Level 335 (Godslayer)


Eh, you'll be back
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 15:50
Post #9
register1997



Active Poster
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 1,451
Joined: 24-November 10
Level 424 (Godslayer)


What a wall. And I read through it, damnit.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 16:13
Post #10
gigano25



Baiken from Guilty Gear
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 1,141
Joined: 28-December 08
Level 333 (Godslayer)


I have been wondering this for awhile, but occasionally I see members with "(Cheater)" in front of their name. Are those people caught for cheating HV or something else?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 16:22
Post #11
Handsome Phil



Retired
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,198
Joined: 12-July 09
Level 392 (Godslayer)


Cool reading broski
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 16:28
Post #12
Ichy



~ Loli Trainer ~
***********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,061
Joined: 19-February 09
Level 500 (Dovahkiin)


QUOTE(gigano25 @ Jun 17 2013, 16:13) *

I have been wondering this for awhile, but occasionally I see members with "(Cheater)" in front of their name. Are those people caught for cheating HV or something else?

Dunno how Tenb handles this but i guess when caught the first time you will get a Credit penalty and the cheater tag.
If you won't stop after this... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 16:36
Post #13
hentai_fusion



Nyo
************
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 33,439
Joined: 14-August 09
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 16:38
Post #14
StonyCat



Retired
*******
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,486
Joined: 31-March 12
Level 500 (Dovahkiin)


QUOTE
"Eh, you'll be back"

QUOTE
Why does he want me to come back if he knows I'm cheating?

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:05
Post #15
MSimm1



The Great and Powerful Derpy
************
Group: Members
Posts: 43,580
Joined: 26-December 09
Level 500 (Godslayer)


To quote Hanover Fiste (Heavy Metal)
QUOTE
Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!


Not really, but it sounds cool (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:05
Post #16
DarkDespair5



Insane Pyromaniac
******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 898
Joined: 20-December 10
Level 303 (Godslayer)


Let the drama.....BEGIN!

BTW I highly doubt he's using a Bayesian classifier for the ponies/ gradient following algorithm for the mazes. Either he's talking bullshit or he found some kind of exploit unrelated to actually solving the image.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:16
Post #17
Dark Soriel



Newcomer
*
Group: Members
Posts: 30
Joined: 4-April 09
Level 127 (Ascended)


The mazes are supposed to be hard? They are way too easy (I don't know for anyone else, but the path is almost always a straight path to the finish). Ponies popping up on my screen while fighting? No problem over there, after a while it gets easy to remember them.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:18
Post #18
Mags_



Reclaimer of my name
***********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,092
Joined: 14-March 11
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


[attachembed=26697]

I think Frith needs to just chill and perhaps visit one of many fine methadone clinics this planet has to offer.

This post has been edited by rainbowmagnum: Jun 17 2013, 19:01
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:19
Post #19
indiexanna



Casual Poster
***
Group: Members
Posts: 215
Joined: 13-November 12
Level 266 (Godslayer)


Back then (when I was just starting) I wasn't familiar with those ponies names, mazes were my friend. Always solved 'em in around 3-10 seconds.

I missed the maze when it was updated, but now I'm getting used with the ponies.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Jun 17 2013, 17:40
Post #20
hitokiri84



Legendary Poster
***********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 10,945
Joined: 24-December 07
Level 496 (Godslayer)


How long until "some anonymous /308" is found to have been cheating the whole time?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


4 Pages V  1 2 3 > » 
Closed TopicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 5th December 2024 - 05:49